Why is the Moon going above Jupiter in the sky?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the apparent motion of the Moon in relation to Jupiter and Mars in the night sky, exploring the visibility and positioning of these celestial bodies over several days. Participants share their observations and seek to understand the reasons behind the Moon's changing position relative to these planets.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant observed the Moon's position relative to Mars over three days, noting that it appeared to move above and below Mars.
  • Several participants questioned the visibility of Mars, suggesting it is currently close to the Sun and not easily seen.
  • There is confusion about distinguishing between Mars and Jupiter, with some participants suggesting that one might be mistaking one planet for the other.
  • Participants discussed the use of astronomy software like Stellarium to track celestial positions, with inquiries about mobile app availability.
  • It was noted that the Moon has overtaken Jupiter's position in the sky over the last few days, with references to specific dates when the Moon was close to Venus.
  • One participant expressed curiosity about the frequency of this phenomenon and whether it occurs monthly.
  • Another participant explained that the Moon's orbit brings it near other celestial objects, leading to its apparent movement above or below them as viewed from Earth.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the Moon's movement relative to Jupiter and Mars, but there is some confusion and disagreement regarding the visibility of Mars and the identification of celestial bodies. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the phenomenon and its implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the ecliptic path of celestial bodies and the phases of the Moon, indicating that these factors may influence observations. However, there are unresolved questions about the exact nature of the phenomenon and its frequency.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to amateur astronomers, individuals curious about celestial mechanics, and those seeking to understand the visibility of planets and the Moon in the night sky.

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I went for a walk in a big park for 3 days.
On first day I saw moon above Mars relatively in sky . Mars was looking like a pointy star being red in colour.
The next day I saw Mars relatively above moon.
The third day moon above Mars again and they rising high and high.
Are they both having a race? :biggrin:
 
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when was this ?

Jupiter and the moon have been relatively close over the last few days
mars is currently very close to the sun ( in the sky) and cannot be seen
 
davenn said:
when was this ?

Jupiter and the moon have been relatively close over the last few days
mars is currently very close to the sun ( in the sky) and cannot be seen
It was also for the last three days. Maybe you are living in different country and viewing perspective might be different?
But it is the Mercury which is close to Sun.
I have read earlier that Mars is closest to moon among other planets.
 
Raghav Gupta said:
It was also for the last three days. Maybe you are living in different country and viewing perspective might be different?
But it is the Mercury which is close to Sun.
I have read earlier that Mars is closest to moon among other planets.

no ... you were most likely mistaking Mars for Jupiter

note again what I said and take special not of what is in brackets

mars is currently very close to the sun ( in the sky)

At the moment, as viewed from earth, Mars is close to the sun and not visible
 
davenn said:
no ... you were most likely mistaking Mars for jupiter
:smile: I think you meant to say I am mistaking Jupiter for Mars .
How one can tell whether it is Jupiter or Mars, without looking by a telescope?
 
Raghav Gupta said:
:smile: I think you meant to say I am mistaking Jupiter for Mars .

either way ... it doesn't matter

use an astronomy program like Stellarium, it tells you where all the planets, moon, sun and all the stars and deep space objects are
 
davenn said:
either way ... it doesn't matter

use an astronomy program like Stellarium, it tells you where all the planets, moon, sun and all the stars and deep space objects are
Is mobile app available for that Stellarium?
If it was Jupiter , then also why both moon and it were having a race?
 
Raghav Gupta said:
Is mobile app available for that Stellarium?

not sure ... quite possible

Raghav Gupta said:
If it was Jupiter , then also why both moon and it were having a race?

over the last 4 days the moon has caught up with and overtaken Jupiter's position in the sky

on the 21st to the 23rd April, the moon was quite close to Venus
 
davenn said:
over the last 4 days the moon has caught up with and overtaken Jupiter's position in the sky

on the 21st to the 23rd April, the moon was quite close to Venus
Is it the first time?
Why any breaking news or talk about that is not taking place?
 
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it happens every month

here's a pic I just did from Stellarium for some one in India, like yourself
showing the moon's path over the last week.
the location is as the date time says for the shown position
for tonite , the 28th april ... the moon has nmow moved off the top of the image

moon path.JPG
 
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davenn said:
it happens every month

here's a pic I just did from Stellarium for some one in India, like yourself
showing the moon's path over the last week the location is as the

View attachment 82678
And if you change the date by one day, would the moon be above. Can you show the pic?
What is this phenomena and till how many days in a month it happens?
 
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moon path2.JPG
 
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Note ... I have not worried about the phases of the moon

on the 22nd it was just a thin crescent
on the 27th it was first quarter
 
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Thanks Davenn.
I have not studied astronomy but was fascinated by that thing.
 
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davenn said:
Note ... I have not worried about the phases of the moon

on the 22nd it was just a thin crescent
on the 27th it was first quarter
But what is the phenomena for all this or reason of moon going above Jupiter?
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
But what is the phenomena for all this or reason of moon going above Jupiter?

The Moon orbits the Earth and is much, much closer than any of the other planets. Therefore as the Moon moves along in its orbit, it moves near to, and sometimes in front of, other objects as viewed from here on Earth.
 
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