Why Is There Cold Wind? Investigating the Creation of Wind and Its Temperature"

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The discussion centers on the relationship between wind, temperature, and kinetic energy, specifically addressing why cold wind exists despite the kinetic theory of gases suggesting that high-velocity particles should be hot. Participants clarify that wind velocity does not directly influence temperature, as temperature is determined in the rest frame of the gas. The uneven heating of the Earth by the sun causes hot air to rise, creating low-pressure areas that draw in cooler air, resulting in cold wind. Factors such as evaporation and humidity also affect perceived temperature.

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So awhile ago I was thinking about wind.

Sometimes wind is hot but when I think of wind I usually think of cold wind.
Wind seems to be fast moving particles and I know based on the kinetics theory of gases

KE = \frac{1}{2}mv^2 = \frac{3}{2}kT

Maybe, I'm making a wrong assumption but to me this seems that if a particle of gas has a high KE and high v that it will have a high T

So why would there be cold wind. Shouldn't all high velocity wind be hot?

Through my investigation of this I have gotten some info on how wind is created.

From what I can gather

The sun heats the Earth unevenly
The atmosphere of the Earth that is getting heated
and the hot air rises because it becomes less dense

(here is where I get a little confused and maybe making wrong assumptions)

this causes less pressure in that area of the atmosphere
causing nearby particles of air to fill the uneven pressure (partial vacuum the rising hot air created?)

and so you have wind!

To me it seems if the gases filling the uneven pressure have a low T that it would seem plausible that we would have cold wind BUT wouldn't that air over time heat up because of it's increase in KE?

I know this looks like a wall of text now but this is my thought process
 
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1. Bulk motion is not included in the temperature.
2. Can you calculate at what speed, the KE would make a noticeable difference if converted to heat?
 
Also, the pressure of the atmosphere is not evenly distributed at anyone time. If a region of low pressure develops, a portion of the atmosphere from a region of higher relative pressure will move in. This movement will also create wind.
 
Sometimes wind is hot but when I think of wind I usually think of cold wind.

Clothes and hair trap a layer of warm air next to your skin. Wind can remove this layer of warm air making it feel colder than it would otherwise.

More..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_chill
 
tony1grendel said:
Wind seems to be fast moving particles and I know based on the kinetics theory of gases

KE = \frac{1}{2}mv^2 = \frac{3}{2}kT

Maybe, I'm making a wrong assumption but to me this seems that if a particle of gas has a high KE and high v that it will have a high T
You're right. You are making a wrong assumption. Velocity and energy are frame-dependent quantities -- change the frame of reference and you get different velocities, different kinetic energy. So in which frame are those velocities expressed? The answer is that it is a rest frame of the gas, a frame in which the total momentum is zero.

In other words, wind velocity doesn't come into play in determining temperature in the kinetic theory of gases.
 
CWatters said:
Clothes and hair trap a layer of warm air next to your skin. Wind can remove this layer of warm air making it feel colder than it would otherwise.
There's also the effect of evaporation if a person is sweating, and the effect of relative humidity.

If the air temperature is around 100°F ~= 38°C or higher, the wind will make it fill hotter still.

http://www.zunis.org/at_least_theres_a_breeze.htm
 

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