Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the calculation of the modulo operation, specifically why 80 mod (-11) results in -8 instead of 3. Participants explore the definitions and conventions surrounding the modulo operation, including its implications in number theory and programming.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants assert that 80 mod (-11) equals -8, while others argue it can also be represented as 3.
- One participant explains the calculation using the equation b = aq + r, demonstrating that both -8 and 3 are valid results.
- Another participant notes that in number theory, the convention is to use the non-negative value for the mod function, regardless of the signs of the arguments.
- A further contribution discusses the concept of equivalence classes in modulo operations, stating that -8 and 3 belong to the same class modulo 11.
- Participants mention that while both values are correct, conventions typically favor the smallest positive representative in an equivalence class.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants acknowledge that both -8 and 3 are valid representations of 80 mod (-11), but there is no consensus on which should be preferred based on conventions or contexts.
Contextual Notes
The discussion highlights the variability in definitions and conventions for the modulo operation across different fields, such as mathematics and programming, without resolving which approach is definitive.
Who May Find This Useful
This discussion may be of interest to those studying number theory, programming, or mathematical conventions related to modular arithmetic.