Why isnt the universe full of quark stars?

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The discussion centers around the existence and characteristics of quark stars, exploring why they are not prevalent in the universe. Participants examine theoretical motivations, distinctions from neutron stars, and the implications of quark matter under various conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the existence of quark stars, citing a lack of observational evidence and weak theoretical motivation.
  • Others seek to clarify the distinction between quark stars and neutron stars, noting that neutrons are composed of quarks, while quark stars would consist of disassociated quarks.
  • A viewpoint suggests that quark stars, if they exist, would be more stable than other forms of matter and could convert surrounding matter into quark matter upon contact.
  • Some participants argue that quark matter could exist under extreme conditions, where quarks are asymptotically free, and question the stability of ejected quark matter when not under such conditions.
  • There is a discussion about the invisibility of quark stars compared to black holes, with some suggesting that they may not be detectable with current instrumentation.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the behavior of quarks at low temperatures, questioning whether they would form hadrons instead of remaining free.
  • One participant references a review article discussing strange quark matter as a potential ground state of strong interactions, though they express skepticism about its likelihood.

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Participants do not reach consensus on the existence of quark stars or the implications of quark matter. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Discussions include assumptions about the conditions under which quark matter might exist, the definitions of stability, and the implications of high-pressure environments. There are unresolved questions regarding the behavior of quarks at varying temperatures and pressures.

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Hi all. I am curious as to why quark stars have not dominated by now, given their inability to decay as they are a mass of fundamental particles. What prevents this?
 
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They probably don't exist. The theoretical motivation is weak, and we have no observational evidence in support of their existence.
 
What is the distinction between a quark star and a neutron star? Neutrons are made of quarks.
 
mathman said:
What is the distinction between a quark star and a neutron star? Neutrons are made of quarks.
I gather that a hypothetical quark star would consist of disassociated quarks instead of triplets composing neutrons.
However I also gather that the existence free quarks in this manner is inconsistent with several well accepted theories.
 
mathman said:
What is the distinction between a quark star and a neutron star? Neutrons are made of quarks.
As rootone stated, the form of matter is different. Instead of just a bunch of neutrons, it'd be sort of like a single giant nucleon consisting of huge numbers of quarks. It would be a hypothetical intermediate stage between a neutron star and a black hole.

However, if this form of matter does exist, it is predicted that it would actually be more stable than any other matter, so that any matter which came in contact with the quark star stuff would become quark star stuff. Thus, if we had a quark star implode (to become a black hole after collecting too much matter), and some of the material of that quark star escaped, then it would convert anything it came into contact with.

I think this is a pretty good reason to believe that quark stars don't exist.
 
Quark stars and quark matter are hypothetical, but I'm unaware of any strong objections to the possibility that they could exist. Quark matter would exist at extremely high temperatures and pressure, where the quarks are asymptotically free, so there is no reason for them to assemble into neutrons. It would be like shoving a huge amount of quark-gluon plasma into a small volume. If some quark matter were ejected from the implosion of a quark star, the ejected components would not necessarily be at the pressure required to remain quark matter and would probably stablize as ordinary matter.
 
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If they did exist though they would probably be pretty much invisible to us, at least with any instrumentation we presently have.
Black holes may indeed be more easily detected through their indirect effects than quark stars would be.
Maybe there is some hope yet for massive compact halo objects being the explanation of dark matter.
*mods* - This is not a personal theory, please set your phasers on stun only.
 
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fzero said:
Quark stars and quark matter are hypothetical, but I'm unaware of any strong objections to the possibility that they could exist. Quark matter would exist at extremely high temperatures and pressure, where the quarks are asymptotically free, so there is no reason for them to assemble into neutrons. It would be like shoving a huge amount of quark-gluon plasma into a small volume. If some quark matter were ejected from the implosion of a quark star, the ejected components would not necessarily be at the pressure required to remain quark matter and would probably stablize as ordinary matter.
According to the models, quark matter is more stable at any pressure.
 
Chalnoth said:
According to the models, quark matter is more stable at any pressure.

But at low temperatures, quarks are not asymptotically free; wouldn't they form hadrons? Certainly that happens to quarks inside accelerators like the LHC when they are ejected from collisions--that's how quarks are spotted, by the hadron jets they produce.
 
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Chalnoth said:
According to the models, quark matter is more stable at any pressure.

I would tend to side with PeterDonis, that the ejected matter would be like jets. I am not doubting your statement about the pressure, but could you suggest an up-to-date reference on the equation of state? I'm sure some progress has been made since I've read anything about it.
 
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PeterDonis said:
But at low temperatures, quarks are not asymptotically free; wouldn't they form hadrons? Certainly that happens to quarks inside accelerators like the LHC when they are ejected from collisions--that's how quarks are spotted, by the hadron jets they produce.
Here's a review:
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0407155

See the section on strange quark matter in particular. The speculation is that because of the extra degree of freedom from the strange quark, this would be the true ground state of strong interactions. I don't think it's a very likely possibility, but it is fun to think about.
 

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