Why Isn't x^2-1 Divisible by m?

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The discussion revolves around the divisibility of the expression \(x^2 - 1\) by a number \(m\) that has a prime factor \(p \equiv 1 \,(\text{mod } 4)\). Participants explore the implications of Euler's totient function \(\varphi(m)\) and the properties of primitive roots in relation to this divisibility issue.

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  • One participant states that if \(m\) has a prime factor \(p \equiv 1 \,(\text{mod } 4)\), then \(\varphi(m)\) is divisible by 4, leading to the conclusion that either \(x^2 - 1\) or \(x^2 + 1\) must be divisible by \(m\).
  • Another participant challenges this by providing a counterexample with \(m = 5\) and \(r = 2\), arguing that \(5\) divides \(x^2 - 1\) but not \(x^2 + 1\), contradicting the initial claim.
  • A participant clarifies that \(r\) is a primitive root of \(m\) and corrects their earlier misunderstanding regarding the definition of \(x\) in relation to \(\varphi(m)\).
  • It is noted that the values of \(r, r^2, r^3, \ldots, r^{\varphi(m)}\) modulo \(m\) are distinct, and that \(x^2\) cannot equal \(1\) modulo \(m\) under certain conditions.
  • Another participant suggests a notation adjustment for negating the equivalence sign in the mathematical expressions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the divisibility of \(x^2 - 1\) and \(x^2 + 1\) by \(m\), with no consensus reached on the implications of the properties of primitive roots and the conditions under which these expressions are divisible.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge the need for specific conditions to be imposed on \(m\) and \(r\) to make the arguments valid, highlighting the complexity and nuances involved in the discussion.

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I have a question; Let m have a prime factor p \equiv 1 (mod 4). Then Euler function \varphi(m) is divisible by 4. Let x = r^{\varphi(m)}, then m|(x^4-1) and x^4-1=(x^2-1)(x^2+1). As gcd(x^2-1,x^2+1)|2, either x^2-1 or x^2+1 is divisible by m. My book says here because of the nature of a prime factor, and that x^2-1 isn't divisible by m, so that x^2+1 is divisible by m. I cannot understand why x^2-1 isn't divisible by m because of "a nature of a prime factor".

Will anyone help me?

TIA
 
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maverick6664 said:
I have a question; Let m have a prime factor p \equiv 1 (mod 4). Then Euler function \varphi(m) is divisible by 4. Let x = r^{\varphi(m)}, then m|(x^4-1) and x^4-1=(x^2-1)(x^2+1). As gcd(x^2-1,x^2+1)|2, either x^2-1 or x^2+1 is divisible by m. My book says here because of the nature of a prime factor, and that x^2-1 isn't divisible by m, so that x^2+1 is divisible by m. I cannot understand why x^2-1 isn't divisible by m because of "a nature of a prime factor".

Will anyone help me?

TIA



What is r in \,x=r^{\varphi(m)}\, ? And what book are you reading and where?

Some conditions must be imposed here: take for example $$\,m=5\,\,,\,r=2\,,\,x=r^{\varphi(m)}=2^4=16 \Longrightarrow 65,525=16^4-1=(16^2-1)(16^2+1)$$but in this case precisely \,\,5=m\nmid 16^2+1=257\,\, , but rather \,\,5=m\mid 16^2-1=255\,\, , contradicting what you wrote.

DonAntonio
 
DonAntonio said:
What is r in \,x=r^{\varphi(m)}\, ? And what book are you reading and where?

Some conditions must be imposed here: take for example $$\,m=5\,\,,\,r=2\,,\,x=r^{\varphi(m)}=2^4=16 \Longrightarrow 65,525=16^4-1=(16^2-1)(16^2+1)$$but in this case precisely \,\,5=m\nmid 16^2+1=257\,\, , but rather \,\,5=m\mid 16^2-1=255\,\, , contradicting what you wrote.

DonAntonio

Thank you for your reply.

r is a primitive root for m. Sorry I wrote "primitive factor" because I didn't know the math nomenclature (I'm Japanese in Japan). This is a Japanese book for preparation for IMO. I'm too old for IMO, but just interested in it and reading. My 1st daughter was chosen as a Japanese representative for CGMO(China Girl's Math Olympiad).

I have made two mistakes in the previous message; my book says m is "a power of prime number" p, where p\equiv 1 (mod 4). (but this is not a big mistake).

The other main mistake is x=r^\frac{\varphi(m)}{4} (so p\equiv 1 (mod 4) is necessary). So in your case, x ≠ 16. x had to be (or could be) 2 and m|x^4-1=15=(x^2-1)(x^2+1). It makes sense. x=r can be 3.

Sorry for mistakes.
 
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Since r is a primitive root of m = pk, the values r, r^{2}, r^{3}, ... r^{\phi(m)}, modulo m, are distinct. In particular, r^{\phi(m)}\equiv1 (m), and no power of r from 1 to \phi(m)-1 can satisfy that. x^{2} = r^{\phi(m)/2}, so x^{2} \neq 1 (m)
(Latex doesn't seem to have a \nequiv symbol.)
 
haruspex said:
Since r is a primitive root of m = pk, the values r, r^{2}, r^{3}, ... r^{\phi(m)}, modulo m, are distinct. In particular, r^{\phi(m)}\equiv1 (m), and no power of r from 1 to \phi(m)-1 can satisfy that. x^{2} = r^{\phi(m)/2}, so x^{2} \neq 1 (m)
(Latex doesn't seem to have a \nequiv symbol.)



Try \rlap{\,/}{\equiv} to negate the equivalence sign.

DonAntonio
 
haruspex said:
Since r is a primitive root of m = pk, the values r, r^{2}, r^{3}, ... r^{\phi(m)}, modulo m, are distinct. In particular, r^{\phi(m)}\equiv1 (m), and no power of r from 1 to \phi(m)-1 can satisfy that. x^{2} = r^{\phi(m)/2}, so x^{2} \neq 1 (m)
(Latex doesn't seem to have a \nequiv symbol.)

Thank you! I've got the idea.

-Tetsuji
 
DonAntonio said:
Try \rlap{\,/}{\equiv} to negate the equivalence sign.
Thanks!
 

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