Why the photoelectric cross section decreases with the energy of the photon?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between photon energy and the absorption cross section in the context of the photoelectric effect and photoionization. It is established that as photon energy increases, the absorption cross section decreases, which contradicts the expectation that higher energy photons would enhance ionization. The conversation highlights the importance of distinguishing between core-level photoemission and standard photoemission, which typically involves visible to UV light. Participants emphasize the need for credible references and caution against relying on Wikipedia for complex scientific topics.

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the higher the energy of the photon, the more powerful it can ionize an atom

but why then the absorption cross section decreases with the photon energy?
 
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Resonance?
 
I'm not aware that it does? Where is this written?

More photon energy simply means more kinetic energy of the ejected electron, from what I can remember.
 
mathman said:
Resonance?

not a resonance
 
wdlang said:
the higher the energy of the photon, the more powerful it can ionize an atom

but why then the absorption cross section decreases with the photon energy?

You need to learn to provide references.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
<Sigh>

Please cite specifically where it says "... absorption cross section decreases with the photon energy..."

Zz.

see Cross section
 
wdlang said:
see Cross section

That is core-level photoemission. It is no longer the same "photoelectric" effect that is characterized by the Einstein equation. Notice the energy of the photon being used. The standard photoemission is done using predominantly visible to UV light that probes the conduction band, not core levels.

BTW, as someone who has done photoemission spectroscopy extensively, I would use this particular entry in Wikipedia as the poster child why someone should NOT use Wikipedia to learn from.

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
That is core-level photoemission. It is no longer the same "photoelectric" effect that is characterized by the Einstein equation. Notice the energy of the photon being used. The standard photoemission is done using predominantly visible to UV light that probes the conduction band, not core levels.

BTW, as someone who has done photoemission spectroscopy extensively, I would use this particular entry in Wikipedia as the poster child why someone should NOT use Wikipedia to learn from.

Zz.

i know this

i have in mind the photoelectric effect of atoms not metals
 
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wdlang said:
i know this

i have in mind the photoelectric effect of atoms not metals

Then please look up "photoionization". The topic of this thread is now no longer accurate.

Zz.
 
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wdlang said:
not a resonance

My recollection is vague, but from what I remeber if the photon energy is just enough to kick the electron out of the atom, the electron is more receptive. As the photon energy gets higher it is less likely to happen. The following may help.

https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/mragheb/www/NPRE%20402%20ME%20405%20Nuclear%20Power%20Engineering/Gamma%20Rays%20Interactions%20with%20Matter.pdf
 
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