Ejection of Only one electron by a Photon in the Photoelectric effect

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The discussion centers around the photoelectric effect and the ejection of electrons by photons, particularly why a single photon typically ejects only one electron. Participants explore scenarios involving high-energy photons and alternative processes like the Auger effect and Compton scattering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why a high-energy photon does not eject multiple electrons in the photoelectric effect, suggesting the possibility of energy levels exceeding the work function.
  • Another participant acknowledges that while it is possible for more than one electron to be ejected, this does not occur through the photoelectric effect itself.
  • It is noted that the Auger process can result in multiple electrons being ejected per photon, but this is distinct from the photoelectric effect.
  • Participants discuss the nature of energy absorption in the photoelectric effect, emphasizing that the entire energy of the photon is absorbed in one instance.
  • One participant elaborates on the Auger process, explaining how it involves the emission of an inner electron and subsequent interactions that can lead to additional electron ejections.
  • Concerns are raised about the energy loss of electrons during interactions, particularly in metals compared to semiconductors, affecting the efficiency of electron emission.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms of electron ejection, with some agreeing on the limitations of the photoelectric effect while others explore alternative processes. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conditions under which multiple electrons can be ejected.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the distinct characteristics of the Auger process and Compton scattering, noting that the details of emitted electron spectra can provide insights into the processes involved. There is also mention of the energy dynamics in electron interactions within materials.

Zahid Iftikhar
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I am surprised to know why only one photon in photoelectric effect ejects one electron only. What if a high energy photon (not necessarily x-ray or gamma ray, which may cause Compton effect or pair production)hits the metal, say it has energy double or triple of that of the work function? Why does not it eject two or more electrons?
Please help.
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That process is possible but very unlikely. In general reactions get less likely the more particles have to be involved.
 
Please some more information.
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Zahid Iftikhar said:
Hi
I am surprised to know why only one photon in photoelectric effect ejects one electron only. What if a high energy photon (not necessarily x-ray or gamma ray, which may cause Compton effect or pair production)hits the metal, say it has energy double or triple of that of the work function? Why does not it eject two or more electrons?
Please help.
Regards

First of all, an energetic photon may cause more than one electron to be ejected, but NOT via the photoelectric effect. The Auger process can certainly result in more than one electron being ejected per photon.

But for the photoelectric (or more accurately, a photoemission) process, the entire energy of the photon is absorbed on one shot. There is no partial absorption. This is, by definition, the photoemission process. If the process involves anything else, then it is called something else.

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
First of all, an energetic photon may cause more than one electron to be ejected, but NOT via the photoelectric effect. The Auger process can certainly result in more than one electron being ejected per photon.

But for the photoelectric (or more accurately, a photoemission) process, the entire energy of the photon is absorbed on one shot. There is no partial absorption. This is, by definition, the photoemission process. If the process involves anything else, then it is called something else.

Zz.
Thanks indeed for your kind reply. To my understanding Auger process involves ionization of an atom due to emission of inner electron after being hit by high energy photon. The vacancy thus created is filled by some electron from higher orbits. Another photon thus created hits another electron and kicks it out. In all this chain, still one photon knocks out one electron. This is what I want to know. Even in Compton effect, we see same thing happens. Please spare some more time for my query.
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Zahid Iftikhar said:
Thanks indeed for your kind reply. To my understanding Auger process involves ionization of an atom due to emission of inner electron after being hit by high energy photon. The vacancy thus created is filled by some electron from higher orbits. Another photon thus created hits another electron and kicks it out. In all this chain, still one photon knocks out one electron. This is what I want to know. Even in Compton effect, we see same thing happens. Please spare some more time for my query.
High regards.

But that original one photon that entered the material has now kicked out more than one electron. So that in itself has already answered your original question. But now comes the details, because, for example, how would we know that an Auger process took place?

This is where one has to look at the details of the emitted electron spectrum. The Auger process has a distinct spectrum where by it actually gives you info about the core level states. A "compton scattering" does not, because the compton spectrum is typically broad!

Besides, there's another important issue here. When an energetic electron bumps into another electron, this is a "lossy" process in terms of energy of the original electron. In fact, an electron that already has enough energy to escape a material will tend to lose that energy quite easily if it bumps into another electron before it escapes the material. This is why metals are usually poorer photocathodes than semiconductors, because metals have more free electrons than semiconductors. So a "compton process" inside a solid is often detrimental to the emission of electrons from that solid.

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