Why Won't My Archimedes Screw Elevate Water?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges faced in constructing an Archimedes screw for an engineering project aimed at moving water from one point to another using a desk fan as a power source. Participants explore various design considerations, operational mechanics, and troubleshooting strategies related to the screw's functionality.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses frustration with their Archimedes screw not elevating water despite various attempts at construction and adjustments.
  • One participant suggests starting with horizontal movement of water before attempting vertical elevation, emphasizing the need for a "bubble" of water to be trapped and carried upwards by the screw's rotation.
  • Another participant references a video demonstrating a more effective construction method, noting that the tubing should not be wound too tightly and may require a dual-screw design for better functionality.
  • A further suggestion involves using a large auger-type drill bit and a plastic tube, along with pulleys, to create a more efficient mechanism for the screw.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to constructing the Archimedes screw, with multiple competing views on design and functionality remaining evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the implications of different screw designs, the effects of angle adjustments, or the specific mechanics of water movement within the screw. There are also unresolved questions regarding the optimal materials and construction techniques.

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Hi guys. I'm *attempting to make* an archimedes screw for my engineering project.

The only stipulations for this project are as follows:
Create a machine that will move water from point A to point B
The machine must be powered by my professor's desk fan.

So, I bought a small wooden dowel, some clear plastic tubing. I wrapped the tubing around the dowel countless number of ways. I attached a pinwheel at the top of the dowel, so as to utilize the desk fan in powering my machine.

I see seven year old kids making archimedes screws on youtube...I absolutely cannot get mine to work. I have tried wrapping the tube around the dowel very loosely, very tight. I am making sure the structure of the tube is in tact...The tube will pick up water but it will not move UP the tube. I have even tried changing the angle of the whole structure to help the water move up the tube. I am beyond frustrated. PLEASE HELP!
 
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What is happening? Can you post a picture?
 
You can't make an archimedes screw that lifs water vertically. Start by trying to move the water horizontally, then see how far you can raise the top of the screw before it stops working.

If you trace the path around one turn of the helix (when it is not turning), it needs to go up and down again, so a "bubble" of water gets trapped in the lowest part and then gets carried along (and upwards) as the screw turns.
 
There are plenty of video clips on youtube. Here's one. You can clearly see what AlephZero is referring to. The tubing is not wound as directly about the cylinder as one might be tempted to construct it. I think the constructor has actually wound two Archimedian screws onto this axle here, one screw fits inside the other.
 
If you're allowed to buy stuff, which you indicated by your purchase of the dowel, I would start with a large auger-type drill bit and a plastic tube that it just barely fits inside of. Also one large and one very small pulley.
Smear Vaseline, goose grease, or similar substance around the perimeter of the auger to seal it, and slide it into the tube. Using whatever support structures you want, mount the large pulley on the drive-end of the auger. Remove the blade unit from the fan and replace it with the small pulley. Link the two pulleys with some sort of belt.
I leave the rest to your imagination.
 

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