Wick rotation and imaginary number

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of Wick rotation, particularly its application in quantum field theory (QFT) and general relativity. Participants explore whether Wick rotation can be applied to any real variable to facilitate integration convergence and the implications of such transformations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the applicability of Wick rotation beyond time variables, suggesting it may also apply to radial coordinates in certain contexts.
  • There are differing views on the physical meaning of the transformation \(\tau = it\), with some expressing skepticism about its interpretation.
  • One participant notes that Wick rotation is primarily used in QFT to connect quantum field theory with statistical mechanics.
  • Another participant raises concerns that Wick rotation may yield different results in non-flat spacetime, prompting further discussion on its validity in such contexts.
  • Several participants recommend introductory QFT texts, including "QFT in a Nutshell" by Anthony Zee and "An Introduction to Quantum Field Theory" by Peskin & Schroeder.
  • One participant references Wikipedia as a quick reference for understanding Wick rotation.
  • There is mention of interesting studies in general relativity that utilize Wick rotation, indicating its relevance beyond flat spacetime scenarios.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the applicability and implications of Wick rotation, particularly in contexts outside of flat spacetime. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight limitations in understanding the physical meaning of Wick rotation and its application in non-flat spacetime, indicating that assumptions and definitions may vary among contributors.

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Can you use Wick rotation to turn any real variable to an imaginary one, not necessary time, such that your integration converges, and then, return back to the real? I'm not really sure how to use Wick rotation.
 
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touqra said:
Can you use Wick rotation to turn any real variable to an imaginary one, not necessary time, such that your integration converges, and then, return back to the real? I'm not really sure how to use Wick rotation.

You are not sure to "use" a Wick rotation ? Well, what is the problem ? In any self respecting intro QFT study book, you will find a nice illustration of the Wick rotation and how/why it is used. Knowing that, will also answer your first question.

marlon
 
can you give the name of a "self-respecting" intro QFT book please? :redface:
 
MadMax said:
can you give the name of a "self-respecting" intro QFT book please? :redface:

"QFT in a Nutshell" by Anthony Zee

marlon
 
touqra said:
Can you use Wick rotation to turn any real variable to an imaginary one, not necessary time, such that your integration converges, and then, return back to the real? I'm not really sure how to use Wick rotation.
If memory serves, it crops up in relativity now and again since it's essentially a way of 'Euclideanising' a metric. In some general relativity cases, it's not the time coordinate which is time-like so you'd perform a Wick rotation on the radial coordinate perhaps.

It's nothing more than a change of variables to allow you to compute the integral. Some people have reservations about it because they question what physical meaning [tex]\tau = it[/tex] has, but that might be trying to give physical meaning to too many things when you're just wanting to crunch some numbers.
touqra said:
can you give the name of a "self-respecting" intro QFT book please?
"An Introduction to Quantum Field Theory" - Peskin & Schroeder gets my vote. It's the beginners QFT bible in plenty of UK unis. :)
 
AlphaNumeric said:
If memory serves, it crops up in relativity now and again since it's essentially a way of 'Euclideanising' a metric. In some general relativity cases, it's not the time coordinate which is time-like so you'd perform a Wick rotation on the radial coordinate perhaps.

It's nothing more than a change of variables to allow you to compute the integral. Some people have reservations about it because they question what physical meaning [tex]\tau = it[/tex] has, but that might be trying to give physical meaning to too many things when you're just wanting to crunch some numbers.
It seems to me that such a rotation changes the results when space-time is no longer flat. Am I perhaps mistaken in that?
 
MeJennifer said:
It seems to me that such a rotation changes the results when space-time is no longer flat. Am I perhaps mistaken in that?

Err, a non flat space time is not an ingredient of QFT, which is the formalism where this Wick rotation is very often used and which is indeed the context withint which the OP was asking the question.

The main reason why this rotation is used in QFT is that it connects quantum (field) theory to statistical mechanics. So the equations from both formalisms are linked to each other and one of the two formalisms can be used to describe a fenomenon in the other.

marlon
 
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marlon said:
Err, a non flat space time is not an ingredient of QFT, which is the formalism where this Wick rotation is very often used and which is indeed the context withint which the OP was asking the question.
I agree that "Wick rotation" refers usually to QFT in flat spacetime. There are however interesting studies in GR using the "Wick rotation". See for instance : From Euclidean to Lorentzian General Relativity: The Real Way
 

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