Wick's rotation on a complex vector space

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The discussion revolves around the concept of Wick rotation, particularly its implications and interpretations in the context of complex vector spaces and quantum field theory (QFT). Participants explore the relationship between Wick rotation and the inner product structure of vector spaces, as well as its applications in various QFT scenarios.

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  • One participant questions the assertion that Wick rotation cannot be viewed as a rotation on a complex vector space with a conventional norm and metric, seeking clarification on what would cancel out.
  • Another participant explains that Wick rotation is typically a formal analytic continuation of time from the real axis to the complex plane, separate from the Hilbert-space structure of quantum mechanics.
  • Applications of Wick rotation in QFT are discussed, including its role in vacuum QFT for evaluating Green's functions and in many-body equilibrium QFT, where it resembles a time-evolution operator.
  • A participant speculates that a Wick rotation on a Minkowski vector space alters the Lorentz inner product to a Euclidean inner product, providing a mathematical example involving the inner product of complex vectors.

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Participants express differing interpretations of Wick rotation's implications in complex vector spaces, with no consensus reached on the initial assertion regarding cancellation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the nature of the relationship between Wick rotation and inner product spaces.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of Wick rotation and its applications, with participants noting various assumptions and interpretations that may influence their understanding. Specific mathematical steps and definitions are not fully resolved, contributing to the ongoing debate.

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I read this in the wiki article about Wick rotation:

Note, however, that the Wick rotation cannot be viewed as a rotation on a complex vector space that is equipped with the conventional norm and metric induced by the inner product, as in this case the rotation would cancel out and have no effect.

I do not see why. could you help me to understand what would cancel.
thanks
 
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I have no clue what this should mean. Usually the Wick rotation is a formal analytic continuation of time from the real axis to the complex plane. This has nothing to do with the underlying Hilbert-space structure of QM or inner-product spaces.

There are two standard applications of the Wick rotation in the Q(F)T literature. One is for "vacuum QFT" and the evaluation of all kinds of Green's and proper vertex functions in perturbation theory ("Feynman diagrams"). Here the Wick rotation is usually done for the time-ordered vacuum Green's functions, which are in this case where you calculate vacuum expectation values, identical with the Feynman propagator and thus also closely related to the retarded propagator.

The other application is in many-body equilibrium QFT, where the canonical/grand-canonical statistical operator ##\propto \exp(-\beta \hat{H})## looks formally like a time-evolution operator ##\propto \exp(-\mathrm{i} \hat{H} t)## with ##t \rightarrow -\mathrm{i} \tau##. Here ##\tau \in (0,\beta)## and the bosonic (fermionic) fields are subject to symmetric (antisymmetric) boundary conditions, which comes from taking the trace to evaluate equilbrium expectation values, among them the Green's function. The corresponding imaginary-time (Matsubara) propagator is then the analytic continuation of the retarded propagator.

Alternatively you can do equilibrium QFT also in terms of the Schwinger-Keldysh closed-time path formalism (extended by a vertical part of the contour). For details, see

https://itp.uni-frankfurt.de/~hees/publ/off-eq-qft.pdf

and references cited therein.
 
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Heidi said:
I read this in the wiki article about Wick rotation:

Note, however, that the Wick rotation cannot be viewed as a rotation on a complex vector space that is equipped with the conventional norm and metric induced by the inner product, as in this case the rotation would cancel out and have no effect.

I do not see why. could you help me to understand what would cancel.
thanks
Here is my guess on what on the intended meaning of this passage.

A Wick rotation on a Minkowski vector space changes the Lorentz "inner product" to a Euclidean inner product.

Now, assume that ##V## is a vector space over ##\mathbb{C}## with a conventional inner product ##\left<,\right>##, which is linear in one slot and conjugate-linear in the other slot. Let ##v'=iv## with ##v## in ##V##. Then, ##\left<v',v'\right> = (i)(-i)\left<v,v\right> = \left<v,v\right>##.
 
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i thought that the remark contained more than that...
 

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