WiFi Antenna Coupling in Faraday Cage RV - Jack

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenge of receiving campground WiFi signals inside an RV that functions as a Faraday cage due to its aluminum structure. Participants explore various methods to couple an external WiFi antenna to laptops inside the RV without using active amplifiers, focusing on re-radiating the signal effectively.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Jack proposes using a WiFi antenna mounted on the RV roof, with a cable running through a window or small hole, to couple the external signal into the laptops without a direct connection.
  • Jack inquires about the feasibility of terminating the inside cable with a short piece of wire to re-radiate the signal and asks for guidance on the wire length and grounding considerations.
  • Another participant suggests using USB adapters that connect to laptops, allowing them to receive WiFi signals, and mentions the importance of using the 802.11N standard for better range.
  • Jack acknowledges the USB adapter suggestion but expresses a preference for the coupled antenna approach to avoid purchasing multiple adapters for both laptops.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the effectiveness of the coupled antenna idea, suggesting that an amplifier may be necessary and highlighting the variability of WiFi signal strength depending on campground locations.
  • This participant also recommends consulting with an expert at a computer store for tailored advice on the setup.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing views on the effectiveness of the proposed solutions, with some supporting the idea of using a coupled antenna while others advocate for USB adapters and express doubts about the feasibility of the antenna approach without amplification. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to achieve reliable WiFi connectivity inside the RV.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the optimal solution, and there are varying assumptions about the effectiveness of different approaches, including the need for amplifiers and the impact of RV positioning on signal reception.

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Hi - I live full time in an RV that is surrounded by aluminum - essentially a faraday cage, except for a few rather small windows. I'd like to mount a WiFi antenna on the roof and run a cable in a window or thru a small hole.

Basic issue - how to get a good signal from a campground WiFi inside my "faraday cage" RV without adding active amplifiers, etc.

My laptops have built in antennas in the display lids, so I'd like to somehow couple the outside signal into my laptops inside (without a DIRECT connection to the WiFi card inside the laptops). I want, instead, to RE-RADIATE the signal from the cable to the laptops. 802.11b and 802.11g WiFi networking equipment operates at a range of frequencies from 2.412 GHz to 2.462 GHz.

Can I simply terminate the inside cable with a short piece of wire to re-radiate the signal (now inside instead of outside my cage)? How long should the piece of wire be (assuming a 14 gauge copper wire)? Should I ground the cable shield to the RV frame on one end or both? Will this work at all? Maybe I could put the cable radiator OUTSIDE the small window where my laptops are?

Any better ideas?

Thanks,
Jack
 
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You can get USB adapters that let you communicate with a wireless router from a computer's USB port. They look like a large thumb drive and may come with a small stand to sit on a shelf.

If you put an extension cable on one of these and plugged it into your laptop it would enable you to receive wireless signals from the central antenna at a campground.

They look fairly waterproof, but you could put a plastic cover over it to keep the sun and rain off it.

The current best standard is the 802.11N and it would be worth getting that type as it gives better range and is compatible with earlier types.

Setting it up is quite tricky and you might be able to get the computer store to set your laptop up for you, especially as it would mean disabling the internal Wireless connection.

EDIT: You would need to have USB 2 on your laptop, otherwise it would be too slow for using as a wireless connection.
 
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Thanks for the idea vk6kro. I'm already familiar with those USB adapters, but my wife and I typically run both laptops at the same time. I'd rather not have to buy two of those adapter$. Since I already have an external WiFi antenna (about 10" long), I'd much rather try the coupled antenna idea if it has a chance of working.
 
I guess anything is worth a try, but I expect you will need an amplifier for the antenna.
Don't forget your laptops are transmitting as well as receiving.

So, you might get away with it at one campground but what about the next one where you are parked at the far end of the lot?

The USB adaptors are not expensive ($50 for the N types and about half that for the other, slower ones) and they give you the chance to upgrade your speed and range to the N types.

Why don't you drive to a computer store, find an expert and have a chat about it? Specialist computer stores usually have well trained staff.
 

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