Will force transfer be even along a piece with applied force on top?

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The discussion revolves around the transfer of force along a piece of stainless steel with an applied force on top, specifically focusing on whether the force is evenly distributed along the piece and how this affects the wear of rollers situated between two stainless steel tracks. The scope includes conceptual reasoning and technical explanations related to mechanics and material behavior under load.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the force exerted on the piece will match the proposed distribution indicated by blue arrows in their diagram.
  • Another participant highlights that the answer is not straightforward, noting the lack of information about what the cap is bearing on.
  • A later post clarifies the scenario with rollers between stainless steel slots and questions whether the rollers will wear evenly due to the applied force and movement.
  • One participant suggests that in an idealized scenario, wear would be even, but acknowledges that real-world conditions would likely lead to uneven wear due to flexing of the stainless steel tracks under load.
  • Another participant agrees with the observation about uneven wear, indicating that the tops of the rollers will wear slightly more due to the flexing of the rails.
  • There is a mention of a component that holds the bearing in place, which adds complexity to the discussion about the mechanics involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the real-world behavior of the materials will lead to uneven wear, but there is no consensus on the specifics of how the force is transferred or the mechanics of the rollers.

Contextual Notes

The discussion is limited by assumptions about the rigidity of the materials and the specifics of the roller mechanism, which are not fully detailed. The effects of flexing under load and the interaction between components remain unresolved.

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Should be a seemingly simple answer, but I'm not 100% sure, and I hate not being 100% sure.

Sorry for the awful picture, but all I have here is MSPaint.

[PLAIN]http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2870/forces.png

In this case, the silver part is 430 SS, small piece. There are no official "dimensions" I guess, but for clarity's sake, let's say the piece is about 1 1/2 in. left to right and about 3/4" tall. We're looking at the piece dead-on front view, so the piece extends into the viewing plane.

My question is, with the force applied to the top part (red), will the force exerted on a piece fitting below it match the blue arrows? Will this transferred force be even along the whole piece, or will it be slightly different on the slants (green circles)?

Thanks, hopefully it's somewhat clear.
 
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The answer is not simple, especially as you have not told us what the cap is bearing on.
 
Okay, hopefully this is a little better

[PLAIN]http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8418/rollers.png

Two SS slots with Delrin rollers between them. I'm basically trying to figure out, as a force is applied to the top SS bar (lets the bottom one is fixed) and over many times of sliding back and forth (in and out of the page in this view), will the rollers wear evenly?

I can't seem to figure it out. It seems like they would wear evenly due to the parallel SS structures they are between, but something inside my brain is telling me that maybe the top-inside and/or bottom-outside corners of each roller may wear first?

Assume the rollers are not able to slide parallel to the shafts, they can only roll the top SS piece back and forth.

Maybe this makes more sense?
 
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In an idealized enough diagram, you would see even wear. But in the real world, you will not.

The SS tracks will not be rigid bodies, so they will flex under load. The upper one will spread out and the lower one will be squeezed together. So you don't have parallel surfaces.

It is not clear how the rollers can work like that. Do they rotate on shafts thru their centers? Or is their another feature to keep the rollers in the position shown?
 
Ahhh that makes perfect sense, I didn't even really think about the rails not being rigid bodies. Basically the tops of the rollers will wear slightly more then...

There is a piece that holds the bearing in, it fits between the steel pieces but doesn't touch either, it fits in the space between. It's hard to describe, I guess. It's for slides on the top racks of dishwashers.

Either way, thanks for the help, I can't believe I didn't realize that. Makes perfect sense now, though. So again, THANK YOU! :)
 

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