Will Lobby Reform Be Addressed If Democrats Win Congress?

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The discussion revolves around the potential actions of the Democratic Party regarding lobby reform if they regain control of Congress. Participants explore the implications of public financing of elections and the broader context of political corruption and oversight in government.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the Democrats' commitment to substantive lobby reform, suggesting they may only implement minimal ethics rules.
  • There are calls for impeachment proceedings against President Bush if the Democrats win, with some arguing that the current political climate necessitates such actions.
  • Participants emphasize the need for oversight and investigations into government actions before considering impeachment, highlighting the importance of subpoena power.
  • Public campaign financing is proposed as a critical measure to reduce the influence of lobbyist money in Congress, with some arguing it would enable non-mainstream candidates to compete more effectively.
  • Concerns are raised about the Democratic establishment being only marginally less corporatist than the GOP, questioning the effectiveness of potential reforms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the likelihood or effectiveness of lobby reform under a Democratic Congress, with multiple competing views on the party's motivations and potential actions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying degrees of confidence in the Democratic Party's ability to enact meaningful reform, and there are unresolved assumptions about the political landscape and the implications of potential actions.

Skyhunter
Here is the trailer for a PBS documentary scheduled to air Wednesday October 4th.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5QFlOC-FScY

If the Democrats win the Congress this election cycle, will they address lobby reform in a substantive way?

IE publicly financed elections. Or will they pass a few ethics rules and continue business as usual?

I don't have a lot of confidence in the Dem's but better an unknown possible evil, as opposed to a known evil. I guess I will take my chances and support the Democratic party this cycle.
 
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If the Dems win back Congress, the first thing that I want to hear is when impeachment proceedings and removal of Bush from office can be expected.

As for the argument that now is not the time for such a disruption, I say there has never been a better time nor more appropriate [demanding] circumstances. Corruption is one thing, but this continued assault on the Constitution is criminal in the extreme.

...And they had better pick a good replacement for Hastert since Cheney will have to go as well, and I think that makes the next in line the Speaker of the House. :biggrin:
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
If the Dems win back Congress, the first thing that I want to hear is when impeachment proceedings and removal of Bush from office can be expected.

As for the argument that now is not the time for such a disruption, I say there has never been a better time nor more appropriate [demanding] circumstances. Corruption is one thing, but this continued assault on the Constitution is criminal in the extreme.

...And they had better pick a good replacement for Hastert since Cheney will have to go as well, and I think that makes the next in line the Speaker of the House. :biggrin:
I would be happy with just plain oversight. Before they can impeach Bush, they need to investigate, a little subpoena power goes a long way. My guess is that once an investigation is underway Bush will be advised to resign.

If the Dem's win the House, Nancy Pelosi will be the new speaker.

The crux of the problem with Congress is lobbyist money buying influence. That can only be seriously curtailed by public campaign financing.
 
Skyhunter said:
I would be happy with just plain oversight. Before they can impeach Bush, they need to investigate, a little subpoena power goes a long way. My guess is that once an investigation is underway Bush will be advised to resign.

If the Dem's win the House, Nancy Pelosi will be the new speaker.

The crux of the problem with Congress is lobbyist money buying influence. That can only be seriously curtailed by public campaign financing.
President Pelosi has a nice ring to it.
 
turbo-1 said:
President Pelosi has a nice ring to it.
Sounds better than Bush, but remember she is a party politician.

The Democratic establishment is IMO, only slightly less corporatist than the GOP. That is why I advocate public campaign financing. It will allow candidates not affiliated with the mainstream political machine to compete, especially at local levels.
 

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