Will Peter Jackson Adapt Tolkien's Silmarillion for the Big Screen?

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The discussion revolves around the potential adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Silmarillion" by Peter Jackson for film. Participants explore the challenges and implications of adapting a work that is largely considered a collection of histories and backstories rather than a cohesive narrative. The conversation touches on Jackson's previous adaptations of Tolkien's works and the varying opinions on their quality.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the viability of adapting "The Silmarillion," arguing it lacks a traditional narrative structure and may result in a dull film.
  • Others suggest that while "The Silmarillion" is more of a historical account, it contains stories worth adapting, though they caution about potential misinterpretations by filmmakers.
  • Several participants praise Peter Jackson's previous work on "The Lord of the Rings" and "The Hobbit," with some believing he could successfully adapt "The Silmarillion" if approached correctly.
  • Concerns are raised about Jackson's treatment of source material, particularly regarding the expansion of "The Hobbit" into three films, leading to fears that "The Silmarillion" could suffer a similar fate.
  • Some participants propose that specific stories within "The Silmarillion," such as "The Children of Hurin" or the tale of Beren and Lúthien, could be adapted into films, though opinions vary on how many films would be necessary for such adaptations.
  • There is mention of the rights issues surrounding "The Silmarillion," with one participant stating that Jackson does not hold the rights to adapt it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether "The Silmarillion" should be adapted into film. While some express enthusiasm for the idea, others strongly oppose it, leading to a range of competing views on the feasibility and desirability of such an adaptation.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the unfinished nature of "The Silmarillion" and its structure as a collection of histories, which may complicate any adaptation efforts. There are also references to the rights issues that could impact Jackson's ability to adapt the work.

  • #31
StatGuy2000 said:
[...] So in this respect, the Riders of Rohan are not portrayed in an unrealistic manner.
Yes -- that's what I meant: Tolkien does a much better job of portraying this than a lot of other fantasy writers.

His insights into jealousies and egos as the driving force of civilizations are also interesting. Have you read the extended story of Galadriel? Although she's one of the good guys, and remains so, she's driven deep down by ego and hubris.
 
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  • #32
Where can one find the extended story of galadriel? In the appendi of lord of the rings or in the history fo middle Earth (1-12)?
strangerep said:
Yes -- that's what I meant: Tolkien does a much better job of portraying this than a lot of other fantasy writers.His insights into jealousies and egos as the driving force of civilizations are also interesting. Have you read the extended story of Galadriel? Although she's one of the good guys, and remains so, she's driven deep down by ego and hubris.

Where can one find the extended story of galadriel? In the appendi of lord of the rings or in the history fo middle Earth (1-12)?
 
  • #33
moriheru said:
Where can one find the extended story of galadriel? In the appendi of lord of the rings or in the history fo middle Earth (1-12)?
I saw it in Unfinished Tales -- which is partly stories, and partly commentary by Chris Tolkien on his father's unfinished writings (hence he points out various inconsistencies where JRR apparently changed his mind about some of the details).

I don't know if it's since been re-edited/re-published.
 
  • #34
Thanks strangerep.
 
  • #35
The LOTR films were great, but the Hobbit film lost all the charm of the book. Too many horrible orcs, and no Tom Bombadil, so that a child's fantasy became a horror movie!
I tried reading Silmarillion, but found it unreadable, so I have never tried any of the other works by Christopher Tolkien. I certainly wouldn't go to see a movie of it.

Mike
 
  • #36
The "Silmarillion" is not really a "novel". It is more like a fantasy version of a world history text- a chapter given to each era with some illustrative myths of that era included. About one page covers the "Lord of the Rings" era!

I actually enjoyed the book, after I stopped thinking it was a novel. I cannot imagine how they would make it a movie. Perhaps select one chapter and expand it. I really did not like the "Hobbit" movie. They should have made it as one movie and kept to the book more.
 

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