Will the Ice Cream Hit Your Professor's Head?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves analyzing the motion of ice cream falling from a person on an escalator and whether it will land on a professor on another escalator. The scenario includes two escalators at a 40.0° angle, moving at a speed of 0.400 m/s, with a vertical height of 10.0 m. The physics concepts of projectile motion and relative velocity are central to the discussion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial conditions for the ice cream's motion and the professor's motion on the escalator. There are attempts to derive equations for both the ice cream and the professor, with questions about the effects of gravitational acceleration on the professor's motion. Some participants explore the relative speed of the ice cream and the professor's head at the time of impact, questioning the appropriate components to consider.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the motion of both the ice cream and the professor. There is a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of velocities and the effects of gravity on the different motions involved. No consensus has been reached yet, as various interpretations and calculations are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available and the assumptions that can be made. The problem setup involves specific angles and speeds that are critical to the analysis.

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Homework Statement



You are at the mall on the top step of a down escalator when you lean over laterally to see your 1.80 m tall physics professor on the bottom step of the adjacent up escalator. Unfortunately, the ice cream you hold in your hand falls
out of its cone as you lean. The two escalators have identical angles of 40.0° with the horizontal, a vertical height of 10.0 m, and move at the same speed of 0.400 m/s. Will the ice cream land on your professor’s head? Explain. If it does land on his head, at what time and at what vertical height does that hap- pen? What is the relative speed of the ice cream with respect to the head at the time of impact?

Homework Equations



Idea projectile motion:
Y=Y_{}(o) + V_{}(yo)t-1/2gt^2
X=X_{}(o)+V_{}(x)t


The Attempt at a Solution



So for ice cream:
V_{}(xo)=Vcosθ
V_{}(yo)=-Vsinθ
Then,
Y_{}(ice cream)= 10-Vsinθt-1/2gt^2

And for the professor:
Y_{}(prof)=1.8+Vsinθ-1/2gt^2

Then equating Y_{}(ice cream)=Y_{}(prof), and solving for t,
I obtain t=15.946s. This value for time sees much to large. Any suggestions for what I may be doing wrong.
 
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The prof is not falling downwards; He's riding the escalator.
 
gneill said:
The prof is not falling downwards; He's riding the escalator.

Ok so then for the prof, I would remove the gravitational acceleration term, and assume he moves at constant speed while riding the escalator.

And just to clarify, when computing the relative speed of the ice cream, I can use
v=√[v(o)^2-2g(y-y(o)] right?
 
NATURE.M said:
Ok so then for the prof, I would remove the gravitational acceleration term, and assume he moves at constant speed while riding the escalator.

And just to clarify, when computing the relative speed of the ice cream, I can use
v=√[v(o)^2-2g(y-y(o)] right?

Hmm. Is that v meant to be the relative speed? If so, I don't think so. The ice cream starts with a negative velocity and picks up speed as it falls. The Prof's head is moving upwards at a constant speed (equal in magnitude to the initial speed of the ice cream, in fact). So I'd expect the relative speed to be a sum of magnitudes.
 
gneill said:
Hmm. Is that v meant to be the relative speed? If so, I don't think so. The ice cream starts with a negative velocity and picks up speed as it falls. The Prof's head is moving upwards at a constant speed (equal in magnitude to the initial speed of the ice cream, in fact). So I'd expect the relative speed to be a sum of magnitudes.

So, then I'd have v(rel.)=v(prof) + v(ice.c), where in this case v(ice.c)=√(v(x)^2+v(y)^2), and similar procedure for v(ice.c).
Though, I'm unsure whether we should maybe take only the y-compents of v(prof) and v(ice.c) , and then add them to obtain v(rel.)?
 
Since both the prof and the ice cream share the same x-velocity, the x-velocities won't contribute to the relative speed. Just work with the y-speeds.
 
gneill said:
Since both the prof and the ice cream share the same x-velocity, the x-velocities won't contribute to the relative speed. Just work with the y-speeds.

Alright thanks a lot gneill!
 

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