Will we go the the past if we could go faster than speed of light?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of traveling faster than the speed of light, particularly whether such travel could result in time travel to the past. Participants explore theoretical concepts, equations, and interpretations related to this topic.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the possibility of traveling faster than light, citing that it is currently considered impossible.
  • One participant mentions the equation t' = t√(1 - v²/c²) and suggests that if one could exceed the speed of light, the time dilation factor would become imaginary.
  • Another participant describes time as a progression from less entropy to more entropy, questioning the relevance of light speed to this concept.
  • A participant asserts that for an object with mass to reach the speed of light, it would require infinite density, which is why massless particles like photons can travel at light speed.
  • One participant proposes a graphical representation of time versus distance, explaining that traveling at light speed results in a specific angle on the graph, while exceeding light speed would not allow for negative time travel.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that time travel is more about the geometry of spacetime rather than merely speed, mentioning cosmic strings as a theoretical mechanism.
  • A participant shares a hypothetical scenario where traveling faster than light could allow one to see past events, but clarifies that this does not equate to actual time travel.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the implications of faster-than-light travel, with multiple competing views on whether it could lead to time travel and the underlying physics involved. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific interpretations of physics equations and concepts that may not be universally accepted. The discussion includes speculative scenarios and hypothetical reasoning without definitive conclusions.

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On a forum I read that we don't know what would happen if we went faster than speed of light. On a video, I heard that we would go to the past if we went faster than c.

Im confused, what is right?
 
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altairz said:
On a forum I read that we don't know what would happen if we went faster than speed of light. On a video, I heard that we would go to the past if we went faster than c.

Im confused, what is right?

Hi altairz! :wink:

It's all rubbish!

We can't go faster than light, and according to the equation t' = t√(1 - v2/c2), if we could, our age wouldn't be multiplied by a negative factor, it would be multiplied by an imaginary factor! :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi altairz! :wink:

It's all rubbish!

We can't go faster than light, and according to the equation t' = t√(1 - v2/c2), if we could, our age wouldn't be multiplied by a negative factor, it would be multiplied by an imaginary factor! :smile:

thanks for answer :).. But what do you really mean with imaginary factor :p? ( sorry, I'm new to physics :P )
 
I mean that the time-dilation factor √(1 - v2/c2) becomes the square-root of a negative number, and is therefore imaginary. :smile:
 
"Time" is described as going from a state of less entropy to more entropy. Or from hot to cold in energy-temperature terms.I am not really sure what velocity (light speed) has to do with that.
 
For something with mass to travel at c, it would have to have infinite density. That is why the photon is massless.
 
Draw a diagram of time vs distance. Normally this is done with axes of years (vertical, time, both pos and neg.) and lightyears (horizontal, distance).
At a speed of c the graph is at 45deg. One lightyear traveled in one year. when extended in both horizontal directions this is called a light cone. It indicates the area inside which physical processes from the source can be experienced. Outside the cone is forbidden by Special relativity.
At 2c the graph is at 26deg, but still positive time.

To get to horizontal you need infinite speed. You can never go negative.
 
Travel in time is a function of a spacetime geometries that allow for such travel, not velocity. For speed to be a factor, you would need to be one of a two cosmic string whipping past each other, and even then the result wouldn't be as desired.
 
I can imagine that you move faster than speed of light, like you are at point A and after 1 sec point B (2*c distance) .. etc. which is a purely imagination. Then you will see the Earth event moving backward, on which I am sure.
 
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IF and this is a rather big IF, you cold travel faster than light, people say you will go back in time because-
Lets take a scenario. The year is 2010, yes? Let's say there is an outpost 42 light years away from Earth. If i get on a ship that can travel 42c, I will reach that outpost in 2011, yes? But, if (here we go again) I take a huge telescope and take a peek at the moon, I will see the light that reflected off the Apollo Mission in 1969... so have I traveled back in time?

No, because the year is still 2011. However, I can see past events, as I have overtaken the 'messenger' who 'delivered' the 'message'
 

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