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The discussion revolves around common spelling challenges and typographical errors experienced by participants. Many express frustration over misspelling words they know how to spell, often due to typing speed or keyboard layout issues. There are mentions of specific troublesome words, such as "ridiculous," "necessary," and "diarrhea," with participants sharing personal anecdotes about their spelling struggles. The conversation also touches on the impact of vision problems on writing accuracy and the tendency to drop words during typing. Participants highlight the confusion caused by English spelling rules, particularly exceptions to the "i before e" rule and the differences between British and American English spellings. The use of spell checkers is debated, with some arguing they can be unreliable. Overall, the thread captures a humorous and relatable exploration of the complexities of English spelling and the common pitfalls faced by writers.
  • #91
Khadaphee.
 
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  • #92
Learned is what the Americans use. The British use both learned and learnt as the past tense and past participle of learn.

-ize is what Americans use, and is used by some British publishers, like the OUP. However this is a minor point. If you are writing something for print, the publishers will change it according to their rules anyway; otherwise, who cares? Since it is sometimes wrong to use -ize, as in advertise, but never wrong to use -ise, if in doubt use the latter.
 
  • #93
qspeechc said:
Learned is what the Americans use. The British use both learned and learnt as the past tense and past participle of learn.

A learned friend. :smile:
 
  • #94
Ben Niehoff said:
2. "Everyday" when you mean "every day". "Everyday" is an adjective, it means "commonplace, ordinary". Most of the time, it's not what you meant to say. "Every day" is an adverbial phrase that means "daily". This one even appears in print by semi-respectable sources...editing must be a dying art.

Anymore versus any more. I see people use the former when they mean the latter.

The difference:
"I don't buy books anymore because I don't need any more books."
http://alt-usage-english.org/anymore.html
 
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  • #96
I used to be an excellent speller, but spelling has morphed so much in my lifetime (American vs. Canadian spelling, basically) that I now feel a little lost.
 
  • #97
Even with 111 wrong spellings, Gadhafi can't touch coffee*.

* Dad: You can go to the ballgame only if you pass a spelling test I give you.
Tommy: Aw, you know I'm no good at spelling. Oh well, what do I have to do?

Dad: I'll give you 5 words. Spell them all correctly and you can go.
Tommy: Naw fair dad, that's too many.

Dad: Okay, how 'bout I give you just one word?
Tommy: One whole word, Dad? You know I'll never get it.

Dad: You're probably right. Okay, I'm going to give you one word, and all you have to do is get one letter correct.
Tommy: Okay, I think that's fair.

Dad: Alright Tommy, spell the word 'coffee'.
Tommy: K - A - U - P - H - Y ? [/size]
 
  • #98
Q: How do you pronounce ghoti?
A: Fish.

Laugh
Women
Ambition
 
  • #99
Separate I used to spell as separate till recently...

Occurring as occurring

Reference as referrence

Probably more but can't remember... Definitely some words that people mentioned here...had issues with unnecessary in the past as well...
Necessarius sounds like the name of a large Neptune-like exojovian with 8 major moons and three other planets in the system, two inner small terrestrials and one outer superterrestrial with a moon the size of Ceres.

*blinks*...*blinks*...

*binks*...

*blinks...blinks*

That's it. Going back to smoking pot.
 
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  • #100
When touch-typing, my fingers have a propensity to type "yield" as "yeild". I know how to spell the word, but somehow it keeps showing up in spell-checks. "Niece" is another word in which my fingers want to flip the e and the i. I have to watch myself when using the word "quandary", because somehow I leave out the second "a".
 
  • #101
turbo-1 said:
When touch-typing, my fingers have a propensity to type "yield" as "yeild". I know how to spell the word, but somehow it keeps showing up in spell-checks. "Niece" is another word in which my fingers want to flip the e and the i. I have to watch myself when using the word "quandary", because somehow I leave out the second "a".

Are you left handed? Most people inadvertantly transpose the right hand letter before the left hand letter.
 
  • #102
BobG said:
Are you left handed? Most people inadvertantly transpose the right hand letter before the left hand letter.
I'm not left-handed, but playing guitar for decades, often professionally, means that I have more dexterity in the fingers of my left hand than in the right.
 
  • #103
I still struggle with Albequerque er Albuquerey Albequeque...never mind.
 
  • #104
turbo-1 said:
When touch-typing, my fingers have a propensity to type "yield" as "yeild". I know how to spell the word, but somehow it keeps showing up in spell-checks. "Niece" is another word in which my fingers want to flip the e and the i.

There are letter I swap quite often, I guess that's because they are typed with different hands, so it is not that difficult to miss the correct order. That's exactly "th eproblem" I explained in my earlier post.
 
  • #105
GoDaffy
Ahmadinnerjacket

Got it.
 
  • #106
decietful...deceitful
 
  • #107
DaveC426913 said:
Q: How do you pronounce ghoti?
A: Fish.

Laugh
Women
Ambition

Fallacy started by Shaw, I think. gh only has an f sound at the end of a word, never at the beginning. The same with ti, which only has the sh sound in -ition, which you can't willy-nilly break up. So a word like ghoti could never exist in English.
 
  • #108
qspeechc said:
Fallacy started by Shaw, I think. gh only has an f sound at the end of a word, never at the beginning. The same with ti, which only has the sh sound in -ition, which you can't willy-nilly break up. So a word like ghoti could never exist in English.

While I'll grant that most examples of gh pronounced as 'f' are at the end of a word, is that a rule, or merely a precendent? Once the precedent is established, who is to say how it can or cannot be used?
 
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  • #109
DaveC426913 said:
While I'll grant that all examples of gh pronounced as 'f' are at the end of a word, is that a rule, or merely a precendent? Once the precedent is established, who is to say how it can or cannot be used?

If you start a trend of neo-proto-english that I need to learn to "keep up", I'm going to be pissed. :-p
 
  • #110
nismaratwork said:
If you start a trend of neo-proto-english that I need to learn to "keep up", I'm going to be pissed. :-p

That's kind of what I thought qspeechc was trying to do. Do you suppose there's really a rule that says 'gh is only pronounced 'f' if at the end of a word?
 
  • #111
qspeechc said:
gh only has an f sound at the end of a word,
Laughter.
 
  • #112
DaveC426913 said:
That's kind of what I thought qspeechc was trying to do. Do you suppose there's really a rule that says 'gh is only pronounced 'f' if at the end of a word?

I've studied English from its roots in old Saxon, to present... I'm yet to find any rule that hasn't been broken to the point where the very "rule" concept doesn't become laughable.

Besides, I like the idea of, "fadaffi" :biggrin:
 
  • #113
What on Earth is "neo-proto-English"?, please explain for the slow people like me.

I would like you to give an English words that starts with a gh that is pronounced as f. There isn't. I thought your point was that English spelling is odd; why make it even worse by creating new things with no precedent? In laughter, the -ter is an obvious suffix to the root word laugh.

The same applies to ti. I was slightly wrong before, though, it also has the sh sound in -itious. You will never find a ti that is not in the construction -ition or -itious that is pronounced sh.

No English-speaking person would read ghoti and think fish, precisely for the reasons I gave above.

English spelling is not nearly as bad as people pretend it is. English spelling is still phonetic or follows simple spelling rules, largely. The final proof of this is that millions of people have learned to spell English well, including those for whom it is not their mother tongue.
 
  • #114
qspeechc said:
What on Earth is "neo-proto-English"?, please explain for the slow people like me.
He's simply saying you are inventing rules where there are none.

The fact that no English words start with xqh does not mean there is a rule that says no english word can start with xqh.

qspeechc said:
I would like you to give an English words that starts with a gh that is pronounced as f. There isn't.

Didn't say there was.

What you did say is:
gh only has an f sound at the end of a word
Which, as you have been shown, is not true. So be careful with those rules of yours.
 
  • #115
DaveC426913 said:
He's simply saying you are inventing rules where there are none.

The fact that no English words start with xqh does not mean there is a rule that says no english word can start with xqh.



Didn't say there was.

What you did say is:

Which, as you have been shown, is not true. So be careful with those rules of yours.

You said it better than I did, or could, thank you as always kind sir! :biggrin:

@qspeechc: "neo" = new "proto" = original... it's meant to be a playful oxymoron. If you added the various rules for English in its many forms over just the last 200 years, there would be an absurd number of contradictions. English is a rapidly evolving language, and the best that can be said is that there general conventions observed by some.
 
  • #116
DaveC426913 said:
He's simply saying you are inventing rules where there are none.

It would have been much better to say that than use "neo-proto-English", isn't it?

And I am not inventing rules. I never said anything was a rule. I merely stated the fact that gh only ever has the sound f at the end of a word, and never at the start.

DaveC426913 said:
The fact that no English words start with xqh does not mean there is a rule that says no english word can start with xqh.

O-kay. I suppose someone will invent such a word then. I await it eagerly. How exactly would it be pronounced? That's too many consonants in a row, by the way. If you want to multiply the difficulties of English spelling then you are welcome to cut such a path. Besides onomatopoeiaic words, all English words come from some other language, Old English, French, Greek, Latin, etc.-- where would we get xqh from?


DaveC426913 said:
What you did say is:

Which, as you have been shown, is not true. So be careful with those rules of yours.

To which I have already said:

qspeechc said:
In laughter, the -ter is an obvious suffix to the root word laugh.

Even if you are correct it changes nothing, because the point that gh at the beginning of a word never has the f sound still stands.

Nevertheless, if anyone wants to complicate English spelling for no good reason he is welcome to do so. Don't expect me to be a follower.
 
  • #117
You don't have much in the way of a sense of humor do you? :rolleyes:

Beyond that, you're just re-stating precedent, nothing more.
 
  • #118
nismaratwork said:
You don't have much in the way of a sense of humor do you? :rolleyes:

Oh, I don't know. What do think I was trying to do here:

qspeechc said:
I suppose someone will invent such a word then. I await it eagerly. How exactly would it be pronounced? That's too many consonants in a row, by the way.

:D
 
  • #119
qspeechc said:
Oh, I don't know. What do think I was trying to do here:



:D

"What part of "ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" didn't you understand?" (sig from another place and time)
 
  • #120
qspeechc said:
...I am not inventing rules. I never said anything was a rule. I merely stated the fact that...

No, you said:

Fallacy started by Shaw ... So a word like ghoti could never exist in English.
First you said it is a fallacy, then you said it could not exist.

qspeechc said:
O-kay. I suppose someone will invent such a word then.
Still completely missing the point...

Lack of precedent is not tantamount to a rule.


qspeechc said:
Even if you are correct it changes nothing, because the point that gh at the beginning of a word never has the f sound still stands.
And the point that lack of precedent =/= rule still stands.

qspeechc said:
Nevertheless, if anyone wants to complicate English spelling for no good reason he is welcome to do so. Don't expect me to be a follower.
Perhaps this is not the thread for you then...
 

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