Would you cryogenically freeze yourself?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of cryogenic freezing as a means to potentially avoid death and the implications of future medical advancements. Participants explore various aspects of cryonics, including ethical considerations, personal motivations, and the feasibility of reviving individuals after being frozen.

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  • Some participants express skepticism about the motivations behind reviving individuals frozen in cryonics, suggesting that future societies may view them as obsolete or problematic.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the legality and ethics of reviving someone who has been frozen, particularly regarding their rights and status as a person.
  • Participants discuss the technical challenges of cryonics, including the limitations of current freezing and thawing techniques, and the lack of successful resuscitation of the dead.
  • Some express a desire for proof of concept or demonstration of successful reanimation before considering cryonics as a viable option.
  • There are humorous takes on the potential outcomes of being thawed, including fears of being treated as a novelty or the implications of one's consciousness after reanimation.
  • Vitrification is mentioned as a method that may mitigate some issues associated with traditional freezing, though doubts remain about its application to larger organisms like humans.

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Participants generally do not reach a consensus, with multiple competing views on the viability and ethics of cryogenic freezing. Some express interest in the concept, while others remain highly skeptical about its feasibility and implications.

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Limitations include unresolved questions about the science of cryonics, the ethical implications of reviving frozen individuals, and the technical feasibility of successful freezing and thawing processes.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the concepts of life extension, cryonics, and the ethical considerations surrounding advanced medical technologies.

  • #31
BillTre said:
They would both think they were.
However, they view of who they were (based upon their histories post-copying) would then diverge based on their separate histories.

But which one would you be?

If everything that makes you "you" is encoded in how your brain is organized then you shouldn't mind if I copy you and then destroy the original organism. But I have a hunch that you would object.
 
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  • #32
JT Smith said:
But which one would you be?
Both would be different versions of me (or you) that took different paths from their divergence point (when they were copied).

JT Smith said:
then you shouldn't mind if I copy you and then destroy the original organism.
Once the mechanism is well worked out and well demonstrated (like Star Trek transporters, which seem to be doing exactly what you describe), I would be as likely to consider it, as I would a transporter ride.
However, with existing technology, not today.
 
  • #33
It's interesting that you seem to be indifferent to the fate of an individual person so long as there is, somewhere in the universe, at some time, a copy. I think each of those copies would see themselves as individuals and would fear for their lives if threatened with destruction.

Even with the Star Trek transporter there was an implicit notion of self. I've seen all of those episodes and I don't recall exact copies every being produced. There was one show where Kirk was split into two versions of himself, but they were two halves of his personality, not copies.

Fun to think about.
 
  • #34
As one copy (on the ship) is destroyed, another is made (on a planet).
Seems the same to me.

Yeah, fun stuff.
 

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