Writing down algebraic expression

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The problem involves an object emitting light with a wavelength L that is moving away from the observer at a relative speed v, which is small compared to the speed of light. The task is to derive the algebraic expression for the fractional change in wavelength observed compared to the emitted wavelength.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to rearrange equations related to the Doppler effect but struggles to express the change in wavelength as a fraction of the original wavelength. Some participants provide hints and explore the relationship between frequency and wavelength, while others question the appropriateness of using classical versus relativistic Doppler shift equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the rearrangement of equations and the implications of using different Doppler shift models. There is some guidance offered regarding the relationships between frequency and wavelength, but no consensus has been reached on the final expression.

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There is a mention of the relative speed being small compared to the speed of light, which may influence the choice of equations used. Additionally, the original poster expresses difficulty in progressing with the problem, indicating potential gaps in understanding the underlying concepts.

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Homework Statement


An object emitting light with a wavelength of L is traveling away from you with a relative speed of v, which is small compared to the speed of light. Write down the algebraic expression for the fractional change in wavelength between what you observe and what the object emits. (In other words, you're trying to find Delta L/L



Homework Equations


F'=F(1-(U/C)) minus sign because its moving away
F=C/L L= lambda :D


The Attempt at a Solution


i just can't seem to be able to rearrange the equation to a point i have
change in wavelength/wave lenght
i mean i know L of source/L observed= 1- U/C where u is relative speed while c is the speed of light i can't seem to get any further. i would appreciate it if someone is able to show me how to rearrange this equation
 
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HINT:

[tex]f^\prime = f\left(1-\frac{u}{c}\right)[/tex]

[tex]\begin{align*}\Rightarrow f^\prime - f & = f\left(1-\frac{u}{c}\right) - f = f\left(1-\frac{u}{c}-1\right)\\<br /> & = - f\frac{u}{c}\end{align*}[/tex]
 
so does that mean that delta L/L= C/v. and since v is smaller than the speed of light would the answer be delta L (L is lambda)/L=C
 
thundercats said:
so does that mean that delta L/L= C/v.
That would be correct.
thundercats said:
and since v is smaller than the speed of light would the answer be delta L (L is lambda)/L=C
No. I think that what the question meant was that we could use the classical Doppler shift (as we did) rather than the relativistic one.

Note that if v << C then (C/v) >> C.
 
thnx by the way
 

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