What's your opinion on X2 X-Men United?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around opinions and reactions to the movie "X2: X-Men United," including comparisons to the first X-Men film and other movies like "The Matrix: Reloaded." Participants share their thoughts on the plot, characters, and potential future installments.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants found "X2" entertaining and better than the first X-Men movie, expressing excitement for potential sequels.
  • Others preferred the first X-Men film, suggesting that it had a stronger impact.
  • Discussion about Rogue's powers included details about her ability to absorb life force and memories through touch, with some historical context from the comics.
  • Concerns were raised about the storyline of "The Matrix: Reloaded," with some participants criticizing it for being mostly action without a solid plot.
  • There was a mention of Jean Grey's transformation into the Phoenix and speculation about the inclusion of the character Apocalypse in future films.
  • Some participants expressed disappointment with the ending of "The Matrix: Reloaded," while others enjoyed it and looked forward to the next installment.
  • There were mixed feelings about the portrayal of villains in superhero narratives, with some participants expressing a preference for them over heroes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally expressed differing opinions on both "X2" and "The Matrix: Reloaded," with no consensus on which film was superior or how the stories compared. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the quality of the narratives and character developments.

Contextual Notes

Some participants referenced specific comic book lore and character backgrounds, which may not be familiar to all readers. The discussion includes speculative elements about future films and character arcs.

Who May Find This Useful

Fans of superhero films, particularly those interested in the X-Men franchise and its adaptations, as well as viewers of "The Matrix" series.

Nicool003
Qhat did you think of the movie? I am going to see it in 2 hours so I'll be able to jion the discussion after that.
 
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It's entertaining to say the least. Better than the first x-men. I am looking forward to the third installment.
 
I liked the first one better myself.

BTW, have you seen Star Trek 2? :smile:
 
I thought it was entertaining.

Someone clue in a non-comic book dork type person: What is Rogue's (the cute chick with the cool hair) power?
 
Rogue absorbs the life force of others through touch. Depending on the duration of contact she can gain their memories and personality traits. In the case of a mutant, she also (temporarily) absorbs their mutant ability.

Of course, having your life force drained causes side effects; in less than a minute she can put you into a coma or even kill you.

In the old comics, she was originally a villian and had actually killed a heroine this way (and, by some quirk, permamently absorbed her abilities and memories), that is why she flies around and is so strong in the old comics.
 
Originally posted by Nicool003
Qhat did you think of the movie? I am going to see it in 2 hours so I'll be able to jion the discussion after that.

I loved it. I even liked it better than the first one. Along with the Matrix: Reloaded, I'd say this is the best movie of the last couple of years.
 
Originally posted by Greg Bernhardt
It's entertaining to say the least. Better than the first x-men. I am looking forward to the third installment.
What third instalment Greg? I saw Bryan Singer say that he wants to do a couple of small movies next. I am not aware of any announcement of another X-Men movie.
 
Two people in front of me took the LAST TWO TICKETS! It was very rainy yesterday so everyone went to see a movie... and i couldnt. The next show was two hours away so I couldn't see it but I'm looking forward to it! seeing it this weekend (hopefully)
 
my friends told me that the story is not good ... i will watch it today and see


als matrix reloaded doesn't have that good story as mtrix 1 i watched it and most of it was fighting !
 
  • #10
Originally posted by Laser Eyes
What third instalment Greg? I saw Bryan Singer say that he wants to do a couple of small movies next. I am not aware of any announcement of another X-Men movie.

Actually, I have heard Mr. Singer say that he plans to make a few more actual sequels (almost a sort of "series of movies").
 
  • #11
Oh man, X-Men 2 was so awe-inspiring, I was so filled with joy that I almost cried

The Matrix 2, on the other hand, was very disappointing.. the fight scenes are as corney as they were in the last movie (Don't believe me? You can ruin the movie(s) for yourself forever by watching the fight scenes without sound), and the dialogue/plot was very wooden and poorly-connected, and the end leaves me feeling like they had one moderately-long movie, then just stretched it thin and cut it in half to make two movies, one of which won't be out for a while yet

I really expected Neo to do awesome stuff, like when people charge at him for him to just wave his hand and make them dissolve with some nifty effects or something, but instead he just had to beat them up by hand/with weapons, like in the first movie before the end

On the plus side, however, they didn't slaughter any innocent people in this movie, so it wasn't all bad

All in all, I really don't understand how people could say that "Well, X-Men 2 might very well give the second Matrix movie a run for its money" when "The Matrix Reloaded" was every bit as bad as the pun in its title

Oh, wait, I guess that it'll probably make more raw money just because of how popular the first one was
 
  • #12
I heard the matrix 2 was a horrible ending and that the story line (like someone else mentioned) was not really there and that it was mostly fighting branching off from the first movie. I find it hard to believe that it has made over 200,000,000!
 
  • #13
i thought it was pretty cool. i liked the pheonix (pheonix is what jean grey has become you know (she didn't really die). if they're going to make a next one it'll be really good, i think. APOCALYPSE had better be in it!
 
  • #14
Originally posted by maximus
i thought it was pretty cool. i liked the pheonix (pheonix is what jean grey has become you know (she didn't really die). if they're going to make a next one it'll be really good, i think. APOCALYPSE had better be in it!

That's a spoiler for those that haven't seen the movie yet , but now that you've brought it up, what's the Pheonix (I haven't read the comic in forever)?
 
  • #15
Originally posted by maximus
i thought it was pretty cool. i liked the pheonix (pheonix is what jean grey has become you know (she didn't really die). if they're going to make a next one it'll be really good, i think. APOCALYPSE had better be in it!

But I agree, it would be cool to have Apocalypse in it. He's the robot that's completely indesctructible, right?
 
  • #16
I liked the Matrix 2. Granted the fact that it ends with "Too Be Continued..." was a bit disappointing. But the first two Back to the Future movies ended the same way.
 
  • #17
Originally posted by zk4586
I liked the Matrix 2. Granted the fact that it ends with "Too Be Continued..." was a bit disappointing. But the first two Back to the Future movies ended the same way.

Good point. I didn't mind the ending at all, as it left my stoked for the third one.

I don't understand why so many people here disliked the Matrix:Reloaded, but I loved it.

P.S. I also loved X2, which is what the thread is about, btw.
 
  • #18
Originally posted by Mentat
But I agree, it would be cool to have Apocalypse in it. He's the robot that's completely indesctructible, right?


that he is. and not only that he has (on his body) every weapon imaginable. i always loved the bad guys...
 
  • #19
Originally posted by maximus
that he is. and not only that he has (on his body) every weapon imaginable. i always loved the bad guys...

Yeah, I know what you mean. I used to like some of the good guys too, but for the most part, my favorites were the villains.
 
  • #20
Sorry to bring up an older topic but Long Live the X-Men!

Greg, what about X-Men avatars?
 

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