ZapperZ's Great Outdoors Photo Contest

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The discussion centers around sharing and appreciating outdoor photography, particularly highlighting scenic locations like Moxie Falls and Bash Bish Falls. Participants share personal experiences and memories associated with these places, noting the increase in visitors and the beauty of nature. Photographers showcase their work, including stunning images of waterfalls, autumn landscapes, and foggy scenes, sparking admiration and encouraging others to contribute their own photos. Technical discussions arise regarding photography techniques, such as bracketing for exposure and scanning slides to digital formats. The thread fosters a sense of community among nature lovers and photographers, with a focus on the beauty of outdoor environments and the joy of capturing them through photography.
  • #251
Ooooohh... I didn't even know it was happening, but it explains why I turned into a werewolf so quickly... :wink:

If that's a shot with a travel camera, I'd love to know what it looks like through a long-exposure shot at high res.
 
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  • #252
You should not use a long exposure for the moon- the moon is actually very easy to shoot; since it's sunlit, use the same camera settings for daylight.

On the travel camera, I simply set both focus and exposure metering to the dead-center setting, the result is the pic above.

But yeah- now I'm lusting over a 400mm lens w/ a 2X expander:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/263702718_fefaa8de39.jpg
 
  • #253
Andy Resnick said:
You should not use a long exposure for the moon- the moon is actually very easy to shoot; since it's sunlit, use the same camera settings for daylight.

On the travel camera, I simply set both focus and exposure metering to the dead-center setting, the result is the pic above.

But yeah- now I'm lusting over a 400mm lens w/ a 2X expander:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/263702718_fefaa8de39.jpg

Oooh... I didn't know that, thanks Andy, and thanks for the amazing pics.

Now... get that lens, you don't need food or HVAC.. lenses... :biggrin:
 
  • #254
nismaratwork said:
you don't need food or HVAC.. lenses... :biggrin:

You got it right.
 
  • #255
rhody said:
A friend sent this, and I thought it worth posting, seems this male bird is suppressing the females protests by taking action on his own:

Here is the caption on the image that I received:

When a male can't take it anymore:

(a photographer can die of old age waiting for a shot like this!)

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Rhody... :rolleyes:

Wow!
 
  • #256
I showed that one to some relatives, and the response was jaw-dropping awe.

That is a photo is something truly special.
 
  • #257
It is everywhere, check with tineye.
 
  • #258
nismaratwork said:
That is a photo is something truly special.

Maybe so, but the question is what is so special with the magical photoshop powers nowadays.

Or am I too skeptic?
 
  • #259
Andre said:
Maybe so, but the question is what is so special with the magical photoshop powers nowadays.

Or am I too skeptic?

It doesn't look like it, and from a bit of research this is part of mating behaviour.
 
  • #260
nismaratwork said:
Oooh... I didn't know that, thanks Andy, and thanks for the amazing pics.

Now... get that lens, you don't need food or HVAC.. lenses... :biggrin:

Borek said:
You got it right.

I got some great news today, so I'm going shopping! Or rather, I'm making the purchasing department go shopping for me, since they prefer paperwork to common sense...
 
  • #261
Andy Resnick said:
I got some great news today, so I'm going shopping! Or rather, I'm making the purchasing department go shopping for me, since they prefer paperwork to common sense...

Someone is getting lenses... WhhhooooooOOOOoooooo. :biggrin:
 
  • #262
rhody said:
A friend sent this, and I thought it worth posting, seems this male bird is suppressing the females protests by taking action on his own:

Here is the caption on the image that I received:

When a male can't take it anymore:

(a photographer can die of old age waiting for a shot like this!)

2v16991.jpg


Rhody... :rolleyes:

WOW JUST WOW!
Man you can win any related photo contest... But what would the subject be? :biggrin:

Edit: ops, just read it's been sent by your friend. Great shot indeed.
 
  • #263
This one cracks me up, can you say... in the stratosphere...

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Rhody... whoosh... :devil:
 
  • #264
rhody said:
This one cracks me up, can you say... in the stratosphere...

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Rhody... whoosh... :devil:
Perfect!
 
  • #265
I took the ultrawide and went for a stroll this weekend- it's a manual lens, so everything was done old-skool. One of the advantages of digital is the ability to immediately know if the exposure is too light or dark, and compensate for it right there. The metering had some trouble with this field of view- often I was shooting at exposures of -1 or even -2 to get the histogram where it should be.

It started off poorly when this fellow and I surprised each other:

[PLAIN]http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7843/dsc6337.jpg

I was about 20 feet away and we watched each other for about 10 minutes, me snapping off frames the whole time. Why do I say 'poorly'? Here's the full frame:

[PLAIN]http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7213/dsc63371.jpg

Clearly, ultrawides are not suited for animal photos. Even so, it was a useful exercise in manual photography and also learning that (some) wild animals will tolerate someone reasonably close. After I got over what the lens *couldn't* do (and a few mumbled oaths about Andre and his zoom lenses :)), I was able to think about what the lens *could* do. Ultrawides exaggerate depth- long objects appear shortened and short objects appear lengthened. For example, here's two photos of trees- I'm looking up, the camera is nearly touching the trunk:

[PLAIN]http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/7960/dsc6257.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5453/dsc6243q.jpg

The trees are quite normal- it's the depth perspective that has altered, making them appear short and stumpy. You can also see my hand and the lens cap in the frame- I'm trying to block the sun glare from creating those blue blobs. Alternatively, here's a shot through a hollow trunk, the length of which was maybe 6 feet:

[PLAIN]http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4237/dsc6355j.jpg

I'm closer than 1 foot from the trunk, and the warped perspective makes the trunk appear as a long tunnel. The key to using a lens like this is to get *close* and *low*:

[PLAIN]http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7758/dsc6353.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/4248/dsc6268.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7194/dsc6273.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/507/dsc6274x.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1308/dsc6367.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5072/dsc6371f.jpg

Those last two images were taken inside some sort of lean-to structure (there's nature classes that make these things all year long). There was barely enough room for me to crouch down and crawl in- if the ground wasn't so muddy, I would have laid down and shot directly up. I wasn't even looking through the viewfinder- not enough room. As it was, I came home all dirty and muddy. But the images make the interior seem spacious.

Two things to notice: the horizon tends to seek the middle of the frame, and when lines come in from the corners, the image appears 'better'.

[PLAIN]http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4305/dsc6377n.jpg

It's really hard to get the horizon to move if it's anywhere near the central third- the image appears unbalanced otherwise. Using an ultrawide for landscapes, it's critical that some object be in the foreground to anchor the image:

[PLAIN]http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1439/dsc6365x.jpg

Otherwise, the image is really empty becasue there's nothing to focus on:

[PLAIN]http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/3020/dsc6259j.jpg

but it's also good for sweeping skies. Here, it's really important to keep the horizon in the frame:

[PLAIN]http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/7716/dsc6264.jpg

The objects basically serve as a 'scale bar'. If you cover up the ground, it's impossible to tell how much area the sky is covering: the image could have been taken with *any* focal length lens- which defeats the purpose of having an ultrawide! Another bonus of this lens, the lens tends to make the image more blue at the corners, so sky and water appear extra-saturated if they run along the edges of the frame.

It's been raining for 2 weeks- if the weather gets better for next weekend, I'll probably do the same stroll except with the 400mm.
 
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  • #267
I checked out some of Robinson's work- it's oddly interesting (just like what I post here, except for the 'interesting' :) Thanks!
 
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  • #268
Andy Resnick said:
I took the ultrawide and went for a stroll this weekend- it's a manual lens, so everything was done old-skool. One of the advantages of digital is the ability to immediately know if the exposure is too light or dark, and compensate for it right there. The metering had some trouble with this field of view- often I was shooting at exposures of -1 or even -2 to get the histogram where it should be.

It started off poorly when this fellow and I surprised each other:

[PLAIN]http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7843/dsc6337.jpg

I was about 20 feet away and we watched each other for about 10 minutes, me snapping off frames the whole time. Why do I say 'poorly'? Here's the full frame:

[PLAIN]http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7213/dsc63371.jpg

Clearly, ultrawides are not suited for animal photos. Even so, it was a useful exercise in manual photography and also learning that (some) wild animals will tolerate someone reasonably close. After I got over what the lens *couldn't* do (and a few mumbled oaths about Andre and his zoom lenses :)), I was able to think about what the lens *could* do. Ultrawides exaggerate depth- long objects appear shortened and short objects appear lengthened. For example, here's two photos of trees- . . .
Wow that's amazing camouflage. Spending 10 minutes close to a hawk is pretty cool.

I had one fly right over my head yesterday. I wish that I'd had my camera.
 
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  • #269
I wasn't outside for this, but here's another example of using an ultrawide- remember, get *close* and *low*:

[PLAIN]http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2479/dsc5991g.jpg

It's the bottom step of a staircase.

It's been so windy lately, the local windmills are all turned off- those should give nicely "warped" images, especially using long exposures to get some motion blur.

As a semi-random question, has anyone here had any experience using Hydrogen-alpha filters?
 
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  • #270
Self explanatory: Panda Butt, sent to me by a friend:

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Rhody... :redface:
 
  • #271
Oh, that's so cute :)
 
  • #272
Went for a stroll with the 400mm this weekend, here's a few pics:

[PLAIN]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8796/dsc6470t.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1189/dsc6472x.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4438/dsc6476w.jpg

It's not ideal for small, nervous animals- they move too fast, and the lens is not particularly agile: big, heavy, manual focus. It's much more suited for stationary objects. Telephotos compress the image in depth- the opposite of retrofocus (wide angle) lenses, and so they render rows of objects particularly well:

[PLAIN]http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/2912/dsc6477.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/7132/dsc6503b.jpg

What's also nice about this lens is the potential to exploit the depth of field: for the squirrel image, the DOF was approximately 1 inch (the nose is out of focus while the body is in focus).

Really, the lens needs to work with objects about a mile away- at f/2.8, the hyperfocal distance is 6200 feet. This means wide-open spaces or cityscapes.

There was one clear night for viewing, here's a crop (800mm f/5.6, 1/10s, ISO 100) showing Mizar A & B which are separated by 14 arcseconds:

[PLAIN]http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9981/dsc64471.jpg

I counted 12 pixels between the two.
 
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  • #273
Crescent moon last night:

[PLAIN]http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2646/dsc66152.jpg

100% crop:

[PLAIN]http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7186/dsc66151.jpg
 
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  • #274
Saturn and Titan (I think) at 300%:

[PLAIN]http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6958/dsc6751.jpg

And (a piece of) the moon again...

[PLAIN]http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/5785/dsc6749k.jpg
 
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  • #275
Getting intimate with Baraboo Quartzite on a lovely Sunday afternoon (pictures obviously not taken by me):

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  • #276
Japanese flowering Cherry Trees (backyard) full bloom, before sunset, medium wind:

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Wind blurred blossoms in back, nice effect...

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Rhody... :wink:
 
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  • #277
rhody said:
Japanese flowering Cherry Trees (backyard) full bloom, before sunset, medium wind:...

Beautiful. Now I want one. How long does it take to get a tree blooming like that. i.e. What is their growing rate. I'm too lazy to research it right now...too many beers maybe.
 
  • #278
dlgoff said:
Beautiful. Now I want one. How long does it take to get a tree blooming like that. i.e. What is their growing rate. I'm too lazy to research it right now...too many beers maybe.

Don,

These trees are about 26 years old planted 30 feet apart, their foliage spreads to a diameter of about 20 feet, which makes for a nice natural fence from the neighbors houses. When I put them in the ground they were only about 10 feet tall and they didn't blossom till about the 4th or 5th year if I remember correctly, blooms last about two weeks or so, then I mow them over twice for three mowings and all the petals are absorbed in the soil, no raking. I warn you, do not plant near your house the roots spread and seek moisture. They can attack your foundation, or water pipes, like whispering willows. I have had to trim the same kind of tree in front because of that, it kind of has a bansai look to it now, will post a picture of it soon. The roots can do a number on your mower too, so plan on raising and lowering the deck of your tractor and use a trimmer. They are pretty tough, lived through a hurricane, class 2+ about 12 years ago, and withstood an onslaught of japanese beatles. That's it, have another beer on me, hehe.

Rhody... :approve:
 
  • #279
rhody said:
These trees are about 26 years old planted 30 feet apart, their foliage spreads to a diameter of about 20 feet, which makes for a nice natural fence from the neighbors houses.

Well, I won't plant any since I probably won't live long enough to see them full grown like yours. :biggrin:

I warn you, do not plant near your house the roots spread and seek moisture. They can attack your foundation, or water pipes, like whispering willows.

I know what you mean about problem roots. Years ago I planted a apricot tree that didn't survive but I left the root stock (plumb root) to grow into a tree that I now really regret. Damn thing puts up new tree starts 100 feet away. I keep threatening to cut it down but even so, I'll be fighting the root system for years.
 
  • #280
Gokul43201 said:
Getting intimate with Baraboo Quartzite on a lovely Sunday afternoon (pictures obviously not taken by me):

You mean you couldn't find the stairs on the other side of the cliff :biggrin:?
 
  • #281
Gokul43201, I like climbing mountains, but not that vertical, looks nice and easy though. Was it your first time?

I love Japanese cherry trees, Rhody. Lovely pics, they'd do a good backgrounds. :smile:
 
  • #282
My organic-gardening neighbor zipped down on a golf-cart with his daughter this afternoon to bring us a new tree. He was digging up shoots and suckers from a beautiful Japanese lilac, and picked out the one with the best root-structure to bring to my wife and me. Now, we have to figure out a good place to put it. It can't be planted in the front garden where our peach or cherry trees are, because Japanese lilacs are quite susceptible to winter damage. The fruit trees have wintered a lot of ice and snow shedding off the roof (with some damage) but this candidate needs a quiet place to live.
 
  • #283
turbo-1 said:
My organic-gardening neighbor zipped down on a golf-cart with his daughter this afternoon to bring us a new tree. He was digging up shoots and suckers from a beautiful Japanese lilac, and picked out the one with the best root-structure to bring to my wife and me. Now, we have to figure out a good place to put it. It can't be planted in the front garden where our peach or cherry trees are, because Japanese lilacs are quite susceptible to winter damage. The fruit trees have wintered a lot of ice and snow shedding off the roof (with some damage) but this candidate needs a quiet place to live.

Pictures ?

Rhody... :smile:
 
  • #284
rhody said:
Pictures ?

Rhody... :smile:
As of now, it is a sapling with no redeeming features. I'll try to get out back on his property to get a picture of his tree. It is beautiful.
 
  • #285
lisab said:
You mean you couldn't find the stairs on the other side of the cliff :biggrin:?
If only I had a tiny fraction of your wisdom ...

drizzle said:
Gokul43201, I like climbing mountains, but not that vertical, looks nice and easy though. Was it your first time?
Not my first time rock climbing. But perhaps the first time with someone that had a camera.
 
  • #286
Gokul43201 said:
Not my first time rock climbing. But perhaps the first time with someone that had a camera.

If memory serves me well last time you got black eye and bruised ribs. This time you get the pictures. You are getting better.
 
  • #287
Here are a few shots of the Japanese cherry in front, trimmed a ton of branches this spring, truck now has a bonsai type look and it is raining petals in the wind, looks like snow, kind of cool... you can see the petals in the third picture...

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Rhody... :cool:
 
  • #288
*Click*- gotcha!

[PLAIN]http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5987/slide1uo.jpg

The joke's on me- turns out I have been using Saturn as a guidestar for a couple of months, wondering why the star was always so aberrated...
 
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  • #289
Took this shot of a tree near my house last summer.

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  • #290
JNBirDy said:
Took this shot of a tree near my house last summer.

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Wow, that's really beautiful!
 
  • #291
JNBirDy said:
Took this shot of a tree near my house last summer.

That's really excellent!
 
  • #292
This is the river Dinkel in the eastermost part of the Netherlands. Been on expotition there today, but I couldn't find the north pole.

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Those steep sandy banks are for some just a heap of dirt - or for others a biotope for kingfishers and damselflies, yet for geologists it's a revealing open book, covering the last 25,000 years including the last glacial maximum, which is what and why?

A close up of another part of the bank.

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Just a pile of sand?

A earth-scientist friend however needed half an hour to explain what we are seeing here.
 
  • #293
JNBirDy said:
Took this shot of a tree near my house last summer.

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JN,

Nice composition and moment to hit the shutter, was this by chance, or do you take pics before sunset, etc... ? Were you in burst mode perhaps ?

Rhody... :wink:
 
  • #294
Went for another stroll with the 15mm yesterday- trees remain excellent subjects:

[PLAIN]http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8392/dsc7325.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9707/dsc7331j.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6980/dsc7375j.jpg

and the perspective-warping ability of the lens was put to good use here:

[PLAIN]http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3760/dsc7341.jpg

I find the uneven lighting to be a distraction, I wanted to capture the shape of the brick wall- maybe on an overcast day I'll stop by to get a 'finished' image.

A landscape:

[PLAIN]http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/7554/dsc7358.jpg

Because the hyperfocal distance for this image was 3 feet, *everything* in the image is in focus. Also, the way the lens accentuates blue at the edges helps emphasize the sky.

Finally, a few "problem" images, and I'd appreciate any thoughts/ideas- I found a HDR (High Dynamic Range) plugin for ImageJ and wanted to try it out. In case you are not familiar with the idea of HDR, it's a relatively new image processing algorithm that (among other things) 'converts' a set of 7-9 bit dynamic range images to a single image that more closely matches human vision (12 bits which can slide over a total of 24 bits):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging

I took bracketed images of two high-contrast scenes, but was not happy with the results at all for two reasons.

First, since I didn't use a tripod, the bracketed images were all displaced from each other resulting a big blurry mess (I know some programs can correct for this, but I'm a big fan of free software).

Second, the plugin let's me operate on a single image, but the results were very disappointing- I'm not sure how to describe the results as anything other than "metallic". It could simply be that I'm overprocessing the images, I'm not sure.

This set of images shows my best attempt at using an HDR routine- the first is straight from the camera, the second my best attempt at HDR processing on a single image

[PLAIN]http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6052/dsc7368.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/183/rgbd.jpg

With my rotten eyes, it's tough for me to tell, but the processed image seems to be too red in the shadows. Here's the result of combining bracketed images:

[PLAIN]http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3769/rgb2.jpg

The color balance is better, but the leaves are blurry (motion artifacts), and the sky is totally blown out.
 
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  • #295
Andy Resnick said:
[PLAIN]http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/183/rgbd.jpg

With my rotten eyes, it's tough for me to tell, but the processed image seems to be too red in the shadows.

It is completely red for me :eek:

HDR with anything that moves (trees, water) is always problematic. I did some testing in the past and decided one needs a well selected object for good effects.
 
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  • #296
Since the 400mm isn't agile enough for flying birds, I was hoping to try and catch another type of bird:

[PLAIN]http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/293/dsc74492.jpg

IIRC, this was a 1/320s exposure at ISO 100.

This was tough- even though the rate it moves across the frame is much lower than (biological) birds, it's moving at a decent clip and the viewing angle is very inconvenient. Also, even though the contrails are high-contrast, the plane is very low contrast with the sky. Two or three iterations of contrast enhancement and lowering the gamma helped pull the plane out of the background while not blowing out the exhaust trails.

[PLAIN]http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/1526/dsc74491.jpg
 
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  • #297
Is it at 400mm, or with the converter? And is the bottom one 1:1 crop?
 
  • #298
sorry- yes, it was taken with the 2x converter, lens wide open (800mm f/5.6), and the bottom is a 1:1 crop.

Here's the full frame, unprocessed:

[PLAIN]http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4400/dsc7449r.jpg
 
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  • #299
Another good night of seeing last night- here's two photos of Saturn, one overexposed (ISO 1600) to show Titan, the other (ISO 100) shows the ring's shadow:

[PLAIN]http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/407/dsc7590y.jpg

[PLAIN]http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4291/dsc7591q.jpg

And a shot of Mizar A & B- they are separated by 14.5".

[PLAIN]http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3295/dsc7599h.jpg

Mizar A is clearly non-spherical; it's not clear if that's lens aberration or atmospheric aberration.

All images taken at 800mm f/5.6, 1/10s exposure.
 
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  • #300
Wow. It doesn't make much sense to try to get any pictures where I live, but I may try while on vacations. I never thought it makes sense to even try astrophotography with standard lens.
 

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