Zeeman Effect: Splitting of Lyman-α Wavelength

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The discussion revolves around the Zeeman effect as it applies to the Lyman-α line (n = 2 → n = 1) of hydrogen, specifically examining how the wavelength of 121.6 nm is affected by a magnetic field of 1 Tesla. Participants are exploring the implications of this effect on spectral lines and the calculations involved in determining the resulting wavelengths.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss different methods for calculating the change in wavelength due to the Zeeman effect, including the use of Taylor series and derivative methods. Questions arise regarding the accuracy of constants used in calculations and the implications of squaring the wavelength in the equations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and methods. Some express confidence in the correctness of the original poster's approach, while others suggest further research into the complexities of the Zeeman effect and its implications for spectral lines.

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There are indications of potential errors in the use of constants and arithmetic, as well as a need for clarification on the assumptions made regarding the transitions involved in the Zeeman effect. Participants are encouraged to explore additional resources for a deeper understanding of the topic.

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Homework Statement


The Lyman-α line (n = 2 → n = 1) has a wavelength of 121.6nm in the absence of a magnetic field.
When B = 1 Tesla, into how many wavelengths will this split and what are their wavelengths?

(You may need the values
μ B = 9.274 × 10 −24 J/T, h̄ = 1.054 × 10 −34 Js and c = 2.998 × 10 8 m/s.)

Homework Equations


##\Delta E=\mu _B\cdot B\cdot m##

The Attempt at a Solution


Have I done this correctly in my lecture note they use Taylor series which I understand but I have use the derivative method as follows:

$$E=\frac{hc}{\lambda }$$

$$\Delta E=\frac{hc\Delta \lambda }{\lambda ^2}$$

$$\Delta \:\lambda =\:\frac{\mu _B\cdot B\cdot m\cdot \lambda ^2}{hc}$$

subbing in the values

$$\Delta \:\lambda =\:\frac{\left(9.274\cdot 10^{-24}\right)\left(1\right)\left(1\right)\left(121.6\cdot 10^{-9}\right)^2}{\left(6.626\cdot 10^{-34}\right)\left(3\cdot 10^8\right)}=6.89\cdot 10^{-13}m$$

so then my final answer is

$$\lambda \pm \Delta\lambda=121.6 \pm 0.0007 nm$$

is there an advantage to using the Taylor series approach?
 
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Why did you switch the exponent in ## \mu_B ## from ## 10^{-24} ## to ## 10^{-27} ##? ## \\ ## I think ## 10^{-24} ## is correct, and you introduced a ## 10^{-3} ## error. ## \\ ## And your Taylor series does work very well. (It actually carries the name that you chose on PF). :)
 
Charles Link said:
Why did you switch the exponent in ## \mu_B ## from ## 10^{-24} ## to ## 10^{-27} ##? ## \\ ## I think ## 10^{-24} ## is correct, and you introduced a ## 10^{-3} ## error. ## \\ ## And your Taylor series does work very well. (It actually carries the name that you chose on PF). :)

Sorry I have edited it, when I do latex quickly I tend to mistake thing sorry.
 
And you need to square ## \lambda ##. Clearly a "typo".
 
I have squared ##\lambda## have I not? is what I have done method wise correct?
 
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Taylor_1989 said:
I have squared ##\lambda## have I not? is what I have done method wise correct?
I checked the arithmetic quickly=I get about ## .7 \cdot 10^{-12}## m=.0007 nm . I'll recheck the arithmetic, but that's what I got. (I'm working without a calculator). ## \\ ## Edit: Your answer looks correct ! :) ## \\ ## Additional item: You get ## m_l=\pm 1, n=2 ## going to ## m_l=0, n=1 ##, accounting for the splitting. I think you can also get ## m_l=0, n=2 ##, going to ## m_l=0, n=1 ##. How many spectral lines does that give? One question that would take additional research is if there is any ## m_s ## splitting. It could be worthwhile to google the Zeeman effect in hydrogen. ## \\ ## And you are on the right track, but it appears this one gets slightly complicated. See https://chem.libretexts.org/Core/Physical_and_Theoretical_Chemistry/Quantum_Mechanics/Zeeman_Effect/5:_Zeeman_Effect_in_Hydrogen_atom (Some of the detail is hard to read in this "link"). This one is ## n=3 ## to ## n=2 ##, but may also be helpful. https://www.scribd.com/document/262518364/Zeeman-Effect-in-Hydrogen ## \\ ## See also: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/zeeman.html ## \\ ## And here's what may be the best, and most applicable of the bunch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeman_effect#Example:_Lyman_alpha_transition_in_hydrogen It looks like it gets a little complicated sorting out the different allowed transitions, as well as perhaps determining since you have a relatively strong magnetic field, that some of the fine structure that occurs might be considered to be the same spectral line, even though there may be additional fine splittings.
 
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Charles Link said:
And you need to square ## \lambda ##. Clearly a "typo".

Charles Link said:
I checked the arithmetic quickly=I get about ## .7 \cdot 10^{-12}## m=.0007 nm . I'll recheck the arithmetic, but that's what I got. (I'm working without a calculator). ## \\ ## Edit: Your answer looks correct ! :) ## \\ ## Additional item: You get ## m_l=\pm 1, n=2 ## going to ## m_l=0, n=1 ##, accounting for the splitting. I think you can also get ## m_l=0, n=2 ##, going to ## m_l=0, n=1 ##. How many spectral lines does that give? One question that would take additional research is if there is any ## m_s ## splitting. It could be worthwhile to google the Zeeman effect in hydrogen. ## \\ ## And you are on the right track, but it appears this one gets slightly complicated. See https://chem.libretexts.org/Core/Physical_and_Theoretical_Chemistry/Quantum_Mechanics/Zeeman_Effect/5:_Zeeman_Effect_in_Hydrogen_atom (Some of the detail is hard to read in this "link"). This one is ## n=3 ## to ## n=2 ##, but may also be helpful. https://www.scribd.com/document/262518364/Zeeman-Effect-in-Hydrogen ## \\ ## See also: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/zeeman.html ## \\ ## And here's what may be the best, and most applicable of the bunch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeman_effect#Example:_Lyman_alpha_transition_in_hydrogen It looks like it gets a little complicated sorting out the different allowed transitions, as well as perhaps determining since you have a relatively strong magnetic field, that some of the fine structure that occurs might be considered to be the same spectral line, even though there may be additional fine splittings.

Thank you very much, and I will start reading the information you link now, much apprecatied :)
 
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