Collision of cballs of clay help

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The discussion revolves around problems involving inelastic collisions and momentum conservation, specifically focusing on clay balls colliding and a skateboarder jumping off a moving skateboard. Participants are exploring the calculations related to the resulting velocities and speeds after collisions.

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  • Participants discuss the similarities between different collision problems, question the treatment of velocities as vectors, and explore component-wise addition of velocities. There are attempts to apply momentum conservation principles to various scenarios, including the skateboard and clay collisions.

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Some participants have provided guidance on vector components and momentum equations, while others express confusion about specific calculations and the distinction between speed and velocity. There is ongoing exploration of the correct application of concepts without a clear consensus on the final answers.

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Participants mention time constraints and the need for clarification on the problems, indicating a pressure to resolve their understanding before deadlines. There is also a reference to specific desired answer formats and the importance of distinguishing between speed and velocity in calculations.

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All of these problems are the last of a series of ten, which i cannot solve. I've given extensive efforts but am now nearly out of time (12pm est). if anone could be of help please feel free.


A 20 g ball of clay traveling east at 2m/s collides with a 30 g ball of clay traveling 30 degrees south of west at 1m/s. what is the speed of the resulting blob, m/s?

Dan is gliding on his skateboard at 2.00m/s. He suddenly jumps backward off the skateboard, kicking the skateboard forward at 7.00m/s(as measured by an observer on the ground). Dan's mass is 60.0 kg and the skateboard's mass is 6.00kg. how fast is dan going as his feet hit the ground

A 10.0g ball of clay traveling east at 7.00m/s collides and sticks together with a 10.0g ball of clay traveling north at 5.50m/s. what is the speed of the resulting clay

A spaceship of mass 2.3×10^6kg is cruising at a speed of 6×10^6m/s when the antimatter reactor fails, blowing the ship into three pieces. One section, having a mass of 4.8×10^5kg, is blown straight backward with a speed of 2.3×10^6m/s. A second piece, with mass 7.6×10^5kg, continues forward at 1.3×10^6m/s.
 
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Do you agree that 1&3 is basically the same problem?
What do you know of inelastic collisions?
 
i just solved the spaceship problem.

they are all momentum problems, and i feel as though i understand them all but something isn't quite right. and i know of ineleastic collisions.

for the skateboard question, i did 60kg(Vf)=6kg*2m/s+60kg*2m/s

for blob of clay question (without degrees) i did (.01kg+.03kg)Vf=.02kg*3m/s+.03kg*2m/s
 
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The "blob of clay" questions need you to regard velocities as VECTORS, not scalars as you have done
 
could you be more specific, do i find x and y components and then add? I am almost positive I am doing it correctly. for the first clay question... (.01kg +.01kg)Vf=.07kgm/s+.055kgm/s final answer of 6.25 is incorrect
 
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Right, in so far as you mean to say you add componentwise.
For example, the first one:
Let the unit vector "east" be [tex]\vec{i}[/tex] and north [tex]\vec{j}[/tex]
Then, the unit vector which makes 30 degrees angle to the unit "west" vector in the southern direction is: [tex]\vec{t}=-\cos(30)\vec{i}-\sin(30)\vec{j}[/tex]
Hence, the final velocity, [tex]\vec{v}_{f}[/tex] fulfills:
[tex](m_{1}+m_{2})\vec{v}_{f}=m_{1}v_{1}\vec{i}+m_{2}v_{2}(-\cos(30)\vec{i}-\sin(30)\vec{j})[/tex]
[tex]m_{1}=20g, v_{1}=2\frac{m}{s}, m_{2}=30g, v_{2}=1\frac{m}{s}[/tex]
 
thank you so much, but what about the skateboarder, i can't figure it out.

edit: that equation does not work. but I am out of time. thanks for the help
 
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Do you know what speed is?
It is not the same as velocity, I thought you knew the difference.
 
their desired answer is in the form of m/s, the correct answer is .410. how did they come to this?
 
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Well, you must calculate the speed from the velocity and plug in the numbers.
To continue with the one I started with, the final speed, [tex]||\vec{v}_{f}||[/tex]
satisfies:
[tex]||\vec{v}_{f}||=\frac{1}{m_{1}+m_{2}}\sqrt{(m_{1}v_{1}-m_{2}v_{2}\cos(30))^{2}+m_{2}^{2}v_{2}^{2}\sin^{2}(30)}=\frac{1}{20+30}\sqrt{(20*2-30*1*\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2})^{2}+30^{2}*1^{2}*\frac{1}{4}}[/tex]
 

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