What is the gravitational force on the satellite?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational force on a satellite in orbit and understanding how this force compares to the satellite's weight at the Earth's surface. The context includes gravitational constants and parameters related to the Earth and the satellite's mass and height.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between gravitational force at different heights and the concept of weight at the Earth's surface. There are discussions about the changing value of gravitational acceleration with height and how to calculate the fraction of the gravitational force in orbit compared to weight on the surface.

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Participants have offered hints and equations to clarify how to approach the problem. Some have expressed confusion about the calculations, while others have attempted to derive the necessary relationships. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct method to find the fraction of gravitational force.

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Participants note that the height of the satellite is significant compared to the Earth's radius, which affects the calculations. There is also mention of the need for the mass of the Earth in certain calculations, but not for others, indicating a nuanced understanding of the problem setup.

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A satellite of mass 1900 kg used in a cellular telephone network is in a circular orbit at a height of 690 km above the surface of the earth.

What is the gravitational force on the satellite?
Take the gravitational constant to be G = 6.67×10−11 N*m^2/kg^2, the mass of the Earth to be m_e = 5.97×1024 kg, and the radius of the Earth to be r_e = 6.38×106 m.


my answer was 1.51*10^4 {\rm N} which was correct, but I am confused on the next question: What fraction is this of its weight at the surface of the earth?
Take the free fall acceleration to be g = 9.80 m/s^2.
 
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The value of g changes with height. 690 Km is comparable to the radius of the Earth. Have you considerd this.

Hint g' = g[Re/(Re+h)]
 
so for that equation doi use the answer times the mass of the Earth to find the fraction, theyre talking about?
 
yes
weight of the settelite is mg,
hence ratio of the weights will be mg'/mg=g'/g
where g' is accelerationdue to gravity at height h and g is that at the surface of earth.
 
You needed the mass of the Earth to find the gravitational force on the satellite in orbit but you don't to find the gravitational force on the satellite on Earth (its weight). Just use F= mg where g= 9.81 m/s2 and m= 1900 kg, as given.

Divide the two to find the fraction.
 
i did what you guys told me but i keep getting wrong. i tried what mukundpa and halls suggested but i ended up wrong.
 
wouldn't the second part of the question just be [tex]\frac{r^2_{orbit}}{r^2_{earth}}[/tex]?
 
nvm i already solved it. i used the number i got as the wrong numerator
 
I am extremely sorry for mistype and not looking back seriously
Actually the derivation is like that

at the surface of Earth acceleration due to gravity is

g = GM/Re^2 Re is radius of earth

and at a height h from the surface
g' = GM/(Re+h)^2

Hence g' = g [Re/(Re+h)]^2

Therefore the required fraction is mg'/mg = [Re/(Re+h)]^2
=[6380/(6380+690)]^2 = 0.814
is it correct
sorry again
 

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