Show that [A,B^{n}]=nB^{n-1}[A,B]


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Jun22-06, 01:07 PM
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I'm having trouble figuring out the following commutator relation problem:

Suppose A and B commute with their commutator, i.e., [tex][B,[A,B]]=[A,[A,B]]=0[/tex]. Show that

[tex][A,B^{n}]=nB^{n-1}[A,B][/tex]

I have

[tex][A,B^{n}] = AB^{n} - B^{n}A[/tex]

and also

[tex][A,B^{n}] = AB^{n} - B^{n}A = ABB^{n-1} - BB^{n-1}A[/tex]

I don't know where to go from here. I'm not positive the above relation is correct either.
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Jun22-06, 01:31 PM
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I'm having trouble figuring out the following commutator relation problem:

Suppose A and B commute with their commutator, i.e., [tex][B,[A,B]]=[A,[A,B]]=0[/tex]. Show that

[tex][A,B^{n}]=nB^{n-1}[A,B][/tex]

I have

[tex][A,B^{n}] = AB^{n} - B^{n}A[/tex]

and also

[tex][A,B^{n}] = AB^{n} - B^{n}A = ABB^{n-1} - BB^{n-1}A[/tex]

I don't know where to go from here. I'm not positive the above relation is correct either.
Do you know the relation

[A,BC] = B[A,C] + [A,B] C

?

It's easy to prove. Just expand out.

Now, use with [itex] C= B^{n-1} [/itex].
, that is use [itex] [A,B^n] = B[A,B^{n-1}] + [A,B] B^{n-1} [/itex].
Now, repeat this again on the first term using now [itex] C= B^{n-2} [/itex]. You will get a recursion formula that will give you the proof easily.
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Sep28-09, 01:08 AM
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Help! I need to do this same exact problem. But I just don't understand what to do so I was wondering if you wouldn't mind showing the steps that you explained to do in order to get the final solution. Thank you so much!

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Jan27-11, 06:22 AM
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Show that [A,B^{n}]=nB^{n-1}[A,B]


i also need to answer the same problem for my quantum physics course. thank you.
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Jan27-11, 01:28 PM
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Here's another way:

[tex]AB^n = (AB)B^{n-1}[/tex]
[tex]=(BA+[A,B])B^{n-1}[/tex]
[tex]=BAB^{n-1} + [A,B]B^{n-1}[/tex]

Can you understand each step?

Now repeat on the first term on the right. Keep going until you end up with [itex]B^n A[/itex] plus some other stuff. According to the statement of the problem, the other stuff should end up being [itex]n[A,B]B^{n-1}[/itex]. It's crucial that [itex][A,B][/itex] commutes with [itex]B[/itex] to get this final result.
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Jan30-11, 02:50 AM
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wohow! thanks Avodynefor the reply. got mixed up. my work all ended as a never ending subtraction of powers ofB. thanks for the idea.


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