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Old Jun16-09, 04:15 PM                  #1
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Hyperbolic angle

Is there a general way of writing the Lorentz transformation for (2+1) dimension or higher, in terms of its hyperbolic angle, sinh and cosh ?
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Old Jun16-09, 05:59 PM                  #2
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Re: Hyperbolic angle

This is a boost in the x direction with velocity LaTeX Code: \\beta
LaTeX Code: \\left[ \\begin{array}{ccc}<BR>\\cosh(\\beta) & \\sinh(\\beta) & 0 \\\\\\<BR>\\sinh(\\beta) & \\cosh(\\beta) & 0 \\\\\\<BR>0 & 0 & 1 \\end{array} \\right]<BR>
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Old Jun16-09, 06:08 PM                  #3
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Re: Hyperbolic angle

Lut, isn't that a boost in the -x direction?
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Old Jun16-09, 06:57 PM       Last edited by touqra; Jun16-09 at 07:35 PM..            #4
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Re: Hyperbolic angle

Originally Posted by Mentz114 View Post
This is a boost in the x direction with velocity LaTeX Code: \\beta
LaTeX Code: \\left[ \\begin{array}{ccc}<BR>\\cosh(\\beta) & \\sinh(\\beta) & 0 \\\\\\<BR>\\sinh(\\beta) & \\cosh(\\beta) & 0 \\\\\\<BR>0 & 0 & 1 \\end{array} \\right]<BR>
What about in a 2D plane ? I don't think it's just a matrix multiplication between x-axis boost and y-axis boost, or is it ? At least, addition of velocity is not the case.
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Old Jun16-09, 08:11 PM                  #5
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Re: Hyperbolic angle

For three dimensions (but without hyperbolic angles) see Wikipedia. Scroll down to where it says "More generally for a boost in an arbitrary direction."
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Old Jun16-09, 08:49 PM                  #6
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Re: Hyperbolic angle

Originally Posted by Peeter View Post
Lut, isn't that a boost in the -x direction?
Yes, unless I'm mistaken, a boost in the positive x direction (output frame moving in the positive x direction wrt the input frame) has minus signs in front of the sinhs. Also, I think the input for cosh and sinh should be the velocity parameter or "rapidity", sometimes written phi, which is artanh(beta) = artanh(v/c), rather than the velocity itself - artanh being the inverse hyperbolic tangent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapidity
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Old Jun16-09, 09:51 PM                  #7
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Re: Hyperbolic angle

Under the convention that a 4-vector is written as
LaTeX Code: \\left[ \\begin{array}{c}<BR>ct \\\\\\<BR>\\textbf{x} <BR>\\end{array} \\right]<BR>
(where x is the spatial 3-vector) it is
LaTeX Code: \\left[ \\begin{array}{ccc}<BR>\\cosh \\psi & & -\\textbf{e}^T \\sinh \\psi \\\\\\  <BR>-\\textbf{e} \\sinh \\psi &  & \\textbf{I} + (\\cosh \\psi - 1) \\textbf{ee}^T} <BR>\\end{array} \\right]<BR>
where LaTeX Code: \\textbf{e} c \\tanh \\psi is the 3-velocity vector of the boost (e being a unit 3-vector in the spatial direction of the velocity.)

If you want an answer entirely in trig-angles and hyperbolic-angles, write e in spherical polar coordinates:
LaTeX Code: \\textbf{e} = \\left[ \\begin{array}{c}<BR>\\cos \\phi \\sin \\theta \\\\\\<BR>\\sin \\phi \\sin \\theta \\\\\\<BR>\\cos\\theta <BR>\\end{array} \\right]<BR>
and expand the matrix!
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Old Jun17-09, 09:03 AM                  #8
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Re: Hyperbolic angle

Originally Posted by Peeter View Post
isn't that a boost in the -x direction?
Only for retardyons moving at sub-light speeds.

You're right, sinh(beta) is negative for beta < 1.
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