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| Aug8-11, 10:51 AM | #1 |
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Find vectors making a certain angle with given vectors
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Find all unit vectors in R4 making an angle of [itex]\pi/3[/itex] with the three vectors A=(1,1,-1,-1) B=(1,-1,1,-1) C=(1,-1,-1,1) 2. Relevant equations u.v=|u||v|cos[itex]\Theta[/itex] 3. The attempt at a solution using V=(w,x,y,z) as the vector we are trying to find, I solved the above equation for all three vectors A,B and C obtaining simultaneous equations to solve, however I obtained x=y=z and w2-wx-x2=0 I am not sure how to solve this to find all unit vectors. Also is there a method of doing this that I am unaware of? |
| Aug8-11, 11:56 AM | #2 |
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How did you get w2-wx-x2=0? Did you use the fact that V is a unit vector?
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| Aug9-11, 05:11 AM | #3 |
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I obtained this results as |u|cos[itex]\Theta[/itex] is 2*1/2=1 for all the vectors A,B&C therefore right hand side of the equation for all the vectors is |v|, so we get v.u=|v| and I took |v| = [itex]\sqrt{}w2+x2+y2+z2[/itex] I put C.u=B.u to obtain w-x-y+z=w-x+y-z which gave me that y=z Then A.u=B.u to obtain w+x-y-z=w-x+y-z which gave me x=y Then A.u=C.u to give w+x-y-z=w-x-y+z which gives x=z so if you take x, y & z to all equal x (for example) and use any of the equations we get w-x=[itex]\sqrt{}w2+3x2[/itex] from this I got the w2-wx-x2=0 |
| Aug9-11, 09:55 AM | #4 |
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Find vectors making a certain angle with given vectorsAlso, if you use the fact that |V|=1, the first equation will give you w=1+x. |
| Aug9-11, 10:17 AM | #5 |
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Okay, sorry I got the algebra wrong, I do not obtain w2-wx-x2=0 instead, I get w=-x. Which would be a solution, however, then fact vela pointed out w=1+x contradicts this, so what value am I supposed to use? |
| Aug9-11, 10:47 AM | #6 |
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How'd you get w=-x? I got wx+x2=0. Try again!
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| Aug9-11, 01:16 PM | #7 |
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Therefore you get either x=0 or w+x=0 which leads to my answer w=-x |
| Aug9-11, 02:04 PM | #8 |
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Heh. I didn't recognize the root. But there's no problem. You have two equations and two unknowns:
\begin{align*} w+x & = 0 \\ w-x & = 1 \end{align*} You can solve that. Also, don't just ignore the x=0 solution as well. |
| Aug9-11, 02:57 PM | #9 |
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Also using x=0 we get w=0, y=0 & z=0 so when it asks for all the unit vectors there must only be one, as the second one has a modulus of zero. So are they no more unit vectors apart from (0.5,-0.5,-0.5,-0.5)? |
| Aug9-11, 04:41 PM | #10 |
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You didn't handle the x=0 case correctly. In particular, it doesn't follow that w=0 from x=0.
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| Aug10-11, 05:37 AM | #11 |
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This implies that w=1, and as x=y=z=0 We get the second unit vector (1,0,0,0) So there are two unit vectors for this answer. Thank you for all your help :) |
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