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Sep2711, 06:06 PM

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Hi everyone. I would really appreciate if I could get some help with this problem elastic collision problem. I will provide the question and the solution as shown in my textbook. What I would like to know if specifically how they used the equation, V2ixV1ix = (V2fxV1fx), and why they arranged it the way they did. Is there perhaps a different way to solve the problem? Thank you very much!
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data At a Route 3 highway onramp, a car of mass 1.50e3 kg is stopped at a stop sign, waiting for a break in traffic before merging with the cars on the highway. A pickup of mass 2.00e3 kg comes up from behind and hits the stopped car. Assuming the collision is elastic, how fast was the pickup 2. Relevant equations M1V1x + M2V2iX=M1Vfx + M2V2fx V2ixV1ix = (V2fxV1fx) 3. The solution in the book "From conservation of momentum: M2V2i=M1Vf + M2V2f (1) because the intital velocity of mass 1 is 0 m/s The collision is elastic, so the relative velocity after the collision is equal and opposite to the relative velocity before the collision: V2i = (V2fV1f) (2) We watn to solve these two equations for V2i, so we can eliminate V2f. Multiplying eq. (2) through by M2 and rearanging yields: M2V2i = M2V1f  M2V2f (3) Adding eqs. (1) and (3) gives: 2*M2V2i = (M1+M2)V1f (4) Finally we solve eq. (4) for V2i: V2i = M1+M1/2M2 * V1f = 1500 kg + 2000 kg/4000 kg * 20.0 m/s = 17.5 m/s " Could someone please explain to me how the textbook solved it this way? Or how it can be solved in a simpler way? Thank you very much! 



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Sep2711, 10:27 PM

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#3
Sep2711, 10:57 PM

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Another way to solve the problem is to use conservation of kinetic energy as the second equation (KE is conserved in elastic collisions). But this introduces the squares of the velocities into the mix, which turn into square roots of expressions, and are a bit harder to work with. If you want you can prove the relative velocity relationship by solving the general case elastic collision using the conservation of energy approach to yield expressions for the final velocities, and then use them to find the final relative velocity. You will then find that the relationship is true in general. 


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