Period of Red Planet: Find Average Yearly Period

  • Thread starter Thread starter dalitwil
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Period Planet
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the period of a red planet based on its average distance from the sun, in comparison to a blue planet with a known period and distance. The context involves celestial mechanics and Kepler's laws of planetary motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relevance of the blue planet's data, with some suggesting to eliminate constants in the equations. Others reference Kepler's Third Law and discuss the proportionality of periods to the cube of the semi-major axis.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, discussing different interpretations of how to apply Kepler's laws. Some have suggested that a proportional relationship can be used to relate the two planets, while others are questioning how to incorporate the given data effectively.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the necessity of using specific values for gravitational constants and the mass of the sun. Participants are also considering how to appropriately apply proportionality in the context of the problem.

dalitwil
Messages
23
Reaction score
0
In the figure the blue planet has a period of 1 year and an average distance from the sun of 1.73 x 1011 meters. If the average distance from the sun for the red planet is 1.39 x 1011 meters, what is its period to the nearest hundredth of a year?

So I thought maybe they through in the information on the blue planet to confuse me, so disregarding that information, I used the formula:

T=(2pi/square root of GM)*r^3/2
where G=6.67e-11 and M is the mass of the sun=2.0e30kg

Unfortunately, this isn't correct, and I don't see where I am supposed to incorporate the information about the blue planet with the red planet.
 

Attachments

  • sol.gif
    sol.gif
    2.7 KB · Views: 656
Physics news on Phys.org
Maybe you are not supposed to use the values for M and G in this problem. Just write the expressions of T for the two planets and eliminate [tex]\sqrt(GM)[/tex].
 
Kepler's Third Law!
 
dalitwil said:
In the figure the blue planet has a period of 1 year and an average distance from the sun of 1.73 x 1011 meters. If the average distance from the sun for the red planet is 1.39 x 1011 meters, what is its period to the nearest hundredth of a year?

Did you learn Kepler's Law? All you need is a proportionality.
 
Right, the period T is proportional to r^3/2 (Kepler's 3rd law), but I am still unsure how to relate the two planets using this concept.
 
dalitwil said:
Right, the period T is proportional to r^3/2 (Kepler's 3rd law), but I am still unsure how to relate the two planets using this concept.

If

[tex]x^m \propto y^n[/tex]

then, if you have two systems that fit the proportionality:

[tex]\frac{x_1^m}{x_2^m}=\frac{y_1^n}{y_2^n}[/tex]

This applies to all values of m and n.

Proportionality just implies that there is some constant out front. If you have a test case with which to determine that constant, that's all you need.
 
T^2/a^3=const for all planets orbiting the same massive object.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
10K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
8K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K