How Does Changing Pipe Radius Affect Pressure in Laminar Flow?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of changing pipe radius on pressure in laminar flow, specifically using Poiseuille's equation. The original poster seeks assistance with a problem involving the calculation of pressure difference required to maintain flow rate when the pipe radius is reduced, as well as the applicability of these calculations in agricultural irrigation scenarios.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the rearrangement of Poiseuille's Law to find the relationship between pressure difference and radius. There is a focus on using ratios rather than specific values to simplify calculations. Additionally, questions arise regarding the conditions under which the flow can be considered laminar in the context of agricultural irrigation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach part a) by suggesting the use of ratios in the equations. The discussion on part b) is still open, with one participant suggesting the calculation of the Reynolds number to determine the flow regime.

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The original poster notes uncertainty about the mathematical steps required for part a) and seeks clarification on the laminar flow conditions for part b). There is an implicit assumption that the flow is initially laminar, but this is under scrutiny.

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I need some help with this question.

Q: Poiseuille's equation shows that for laminar flow the volume flow rate through a pipe in proportional to the product of the pressure difference and the fourth power of the radius. The viscosity of water is 1.0*10^-3 Pa.s

a) Water in a pipe is flowing without turbulence under a certain pressure difference. If the radius of the pipe is reduced by 20%, what percentage increase in pressure difference is required to maintain the same flow rate?

b) In agricultural irrigation, typical values of flow velocity and pipe diameter are 1.0m/s and 100mm, respectively. Is a calculation such as in part a) applicable? (i.e. is the flow in the pipe likely to be laminar?)

I don't know how to do part a) - I am guessing it involves rearranging Poiseuille's Law - but i don't know how to do the maths for it?

The Law is: J = ((pi*R^4)/(8*eta))*((delta(P))/l)

Thanks in advance! :smile:
 
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ussrasu said:
I don't know how to do part a) - I am guessing it involves rearranging Poiseuille's Law - but i don't know how to do the maths for it?

The Law is: J = ((pi*R^4)/(8*eta))*((delta(P))/l)
Sounds to me like you are supposed to assume all else stays the same except radius and pressure. Write your J equation for two different combinations of radius and pressure difference and set the equations equal. You can solve for the ratio of pressure differences in terms of the known ratio of radii.
 
So i let R = 0.8 on one side, and the final pressure as what I am trying to find, and then on the other side i let R=1 as that's at the initial radius, and let the pressure equal 1 here asell and then solve for Final Pressure?

Thanks!
 
ussrasu said:
So i let R = 0.8 on one side, and the final pressure as what I am trying to find, and then on the other side i let R=1 as that's at the initial radius, and let the pressure equal 1 here asell and then solve for Final Pressure?

Thanks!
That's the idea, but you don't have to use 1 for anything. You can use ratios. For one case you have R1 and deltaP1; for the second case you have R2 and deltaP2. When you set the two equal you can rearrange the equation to solve for the ratio deltaP2/deltaP1 in terms of the known ratio R2/R1.
 
Cool thanks!
 
Does anyone have any ideas on how to explain part b to this question? What would you say?

Thanks
 
Calculate the Reynolds number for that flow. If it is <3500 or so, it will be laminar.
 

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