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Is ##\text{d}^{2}=\text{d}\wedge\text{d}## a definition of the exterior algebra, or can it be derived from more fundamental mathematical statements?
The discussion revolves around the properties and definitions related to the exterior derivative and differential forms in the context of differential geometry and calculus on manifolds. Participants explore whether certain properties, such as ##\text{d}^{2}=\text{d}\wedge\text{d}## and the behavior of the Hodge star operator, are definitions or can be derived from more fundamental principles.
Participants express differing views on whether certain properties are definitions or derivable, particularly regarding the exterior derivative and the Hodge star operator. There is no consensus on the necessity of a metric in differential geometry, with some asserting it is essential while others argue it is not.
Some statements made by participants rely on specific assumptions or definitions that may not be universally accepted, such as the relationship between differential forms and metrics or connections. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on foundational concepts in differential geometry and calculus on manifolds.
That is neither a definition nor is it is true in general. For ##n##-dimensional space and for a ##p##-form, ##** = -(-1)^{p(n-p)}## in Minkowski space and ##** = (-1)^{p(n-p)}## in Euclidean space.failexam said:I know that ##**=-1##, but is this a definition, or can it be proved in two to three lines?
Matterwave said:I'm sorry if I'm mistaken as it has been a while since I've done differential geometry, but isn't ##\text{d}^2=0## one of the defining properties of the exterior derivative?
... and geometry, topology, and (homological) algebra.lavinia said:BTW: Differential forms and exterior derivatives do not require the idea of a metric so they are not specifically restricted to Differential Geometry but rather to Calculus on Manifolds.
fresh_42 said:... and geometry, topology, and (homological) algebra.
Geometry to me means measurement of angles at least and usually also distance. These ideas are not needed to do calculus. Differential forms are just calculus. For instance one can integrate a differential form on a smooth manifold that has no shape and is just a bunch of smoothly overlapping coordinate charts..Matterwave said:I was not aware that differential geometry required a metric? Wouldn't that fall under Riemannian geometry, or Semi-Riemannian geometry?
Fightfish said:That is neither a definition nor is it is true in general. For ##n##-dimensional space and for a ##p##-form, ##** = -(-1)^{p(n-p)}## in Minkowski space and ##** = (-1)^{p(n-p)}## in Euclidean space.
Matterwave said:I was not aware that differential geometry required a metric? Wouldn't that fall under Riemannian geometry, or Semi-Riemannian geometry?