Flooding in Nepal - Glacier Collapse

[Point Conception]

TL;DR

Hundreds of Trekkers Missing in Nepal Flooding

https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/foreign-tourists-missing-nepals-flash-155744585.html.

 

[gmax137]

The videos are terrifying.

 

[256bits]

You might want to factual check for sensationalism in this one paragraph:

Equations
1. Potential Energy of 1 kg of water at height
E = m g h --> mass 1 kg, g = 9.81 m/s/s, h = 1200 m ( Assuming 1200m as height, and not glacial path length )
E = 11.8 kJ

Temperature rise of 1 kg water from heat addition Q
dt = Q / ( m Cp ) Q = 11.8 kJ, , = 1 kg, Cp = 4.2kJ / ( kg C )
dt = 2.8 C

Edit:
dt = Q / ( m Cp ) Q = 11.8 kJ, , = 1 kg, Cp = 2.050 kJ / ( kg C )
dt = 5.76 C


I would take the 2.8 C 5.76 C temperature increase due to conversion of potential energy to heat energy to mean that the chunk of glacier ice had already approached melting temperature, lost its cohesive strength and broke away, travelled down the glacial valley on the incline ( not straight down ) and completely liquified into a slush ( ie disintegrated into a mixture of ice particles and water ) during decent.

Reaching warmer temperatures along the path 50 km further down the valley, all of the slush would become water.

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

The videos are terrifying
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/26/world/asia/nepal-flood-glacier-ice-avalanche.html

Unfortunately I think we'll see more of this with glaciers continuing to melt.

 

[Andy Resnick]

TL;DR: Hundreds of Trekkers Missing in Nepal Flooding

https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/foreign-tourists-missing-nepals-flash-155744585.html.

The videos are terrifying.

The videos are terrifying
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/26/world/asia/nepal-flood-glacier-ice-avalanche.html

Agreed- I have never seen anything like that.

 

[Point Conception]

You might want to factual check for sensationalism in this one paragraph:

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If the mass of the glacier that fell is estimated to be 5 000 000 000 kg from 1200 m then v =153 m/s. And with KE = 1/2 mv^2 . joules at impact= 58x10^9. The phase change from ice to water=334000 joules/kg. So only about 173,653 kg of ice converted to water at impact.

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[256bits]

If the mass of the glacier that fell is estimated to be 5 000 000 000 kg from 1200 m then v =153 m/s. And with KE = 1/2 mv^2 . joules at impact= 58x10^9. The phase change from ice to water=334000 joules. So only about 173,653 kg of ice converted to water at impact.

Right. I incorrectly used the Cp for change in degree for water, instead of that for ice.

Equations
1. Potential Energy of 1 kg of water at height
E = m g h --> mass 1 kg, g = 9.81 m/s/s, h = 1200 m ( Assuming 1200m as height, and not glacial path length )
E = 11.8 kJ

Temperature rise of 1 kg water from heat addition Q
dt = Q / ( m Cp ) Q = 11.8 kJ, , = 1 kg, Cp = 2.050 kJ / ( kg C )
dt = 5.76 C

The chunk of ice would have risen in temperature of 5.76 degrees C from the drop.

And then there is the phase change to water, as you have expressed.

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[sbrothy]

The videos are terrifying
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/26/world/asia/nepal-flood-glacier-ice-avalanche.html

Unfortunately I think we'll see more of this with glaciers continuing to melt.

It sounds so bad I serioulsy don't want to look!

 

[256bits]

Some discussion from Jakob Steiner, a geoscientist at the University of Graz in Austria
and Glaciologist Simon Cook, University of Dundee, Scotland.




Satellite image at the 1:42 mark.

 

[256bits]

Some video of the deluge. Viewer beware.
( I find she babbles a bit much, but that's just me, 229 subscribers she has )



1. Question of where all the water came from.
2. Blocked lake upriver posing a risk of secondary water cascade
3. Seismic recordings were that of the deluge ( not an earthquake in the normal sense )

 

[Point Conception]

If the mass of the glacier that fell is estimated to be 5 000 000 000 kg from 1200 m then v =153 m/s. And with KE = 1/2 mv^2 . joules at impact= 58x10^9. The phase change from ice to water=334000 joules/kg. So only about 173,653 kg of ice converted to water at impact.

[Mentor Note: Some AI content has been deleted out of this post since the thread is in the technical forums]

Correction the joules at impact with 5000000000 kg ice falling 1200m: KE = 1/2 mv^2 = mgh = 5.8 x 10^13 joules. So with 334000 joules/kg ice to water phase change. About 176 000,000 kg ice converted to water at 0 degrees C at impact. Out of 5000,000,000 kg ice in glacier. *** Of course all this is kind of hand wavy since the glacier contains other material in the total mass . And some of the kinetic energy at impact is going to displace material at impact location

 

[Astronuc]

Affected river: Trishuli River, Syapru Besi, Nepal; Bhotekoshi River

Affected districts/towns/villages: Nuwakot, Nepal; Rasuwagadi, Nepal - Gyirong, China (Tibet) border crossing; Dhading, Nepal; Chitwan, Nepal

Nuwakot (Nepali: नुवाकोट) is a town in central Nepal, serving as the namesake of the district of the same name. The town is located on the bank of Trishuli and Tadi Rivers. It is located around 60 kilometres west of Kathmandu, . . .

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuwakot,_Bagmati_Province
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuwakot_District

Floods kill more than 500 people in Nepal and Tibet, with 90 Americans [and 30 Canadians] among the missing
https://www.npr.org/2026/08/27/nx-s1-5946309/nepal-tibet-deadly-floods

https://abcnews.com/International/h...issing-massive-nepal-tibet/story?id=136022919

Bhotekoshi River Flood Devastates Rasuwa, Nuwakot, Dhading, and Chitwan
https://english.ratopati.com/story/...floods-sweep-away-settlements-increasing-fear

Apparently, there is also flooding in Gyirong county, China.


Multi-story buildings (looks like ~20 m) overtopped by flood (mudslide with rocks) at Nepal-China (Tibet) border checkpoint. It looks like a 5 or 6 story building south (downstream) was inundated. I would guess the water/mud/rock flood was perhaps 30+ m.

 

[Point Conception]

Amazing

 

[Astronuc]

I looked for the mountain where the glacier collapsed. It appears to be near Langtang Lirung (7,234-m. peak, the highest in the Langtang Himal range) or Tsangbu Ri (6,781 m, or 22,247 feet), also known as Kimshung, which is east of LangTang Lirung. It appears probable that one of the glaciers on Langtan Lirung or nearby in the Langtang Himal range let loose, mainly based on the comment that it was at about 5000 m near a peak of about 7000 m. Several valleys run downhill to the NW toward the Rasuwagadi, Nepal - Gyirong, China (Tibet) border crossing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langtang_Lirung
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsangbu_Ri

https://phys.org/news/2026-08-satellite-images-bedrock-glacier-collapsed.html

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/28/worl...lirung-peak-nepal-china-flood-hnk-vrtc-digvid

Prof. Steiner from U of Graz mentioned a similar event happened last year (2025) in the same location!


Other sources point to glacier on the north side of Langtang Lirung.
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c07l9ggx8m7o

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/NEPAL-FLOODS/MAP/byvrdywwlve/

Update/Edit - Graph shows Lende Khola and Bhote Koshi Rivers merge at Rasuwagadi, Nepal - Gyirong, China (Tibet) border crossing and the outflow is the Trishuli River

 

[Hornbein]

One is reminded of the landslide into an Alaskan fjord that caused a wave five hundred feet high. A father and son in a sailboat battened down the hatches and survived.

After a year stuck in the ice, the Shackleton Antarctic expedition dispatched enclosed lifeboats to beg for rescue at a distant island. On the way the sighted what they at first believed to be mountains in the distance but was actually an enormous wave. It must have shaken them like the seeds in a maraca. The crew survived but they said after that Shackleton was never again quite the same.

Scientists denied the existence of such waves until one was recorded at an oil platform in the North Sea.

The largest wave that attracts surfers is in Portugal. The impact of the falling water can be so great that the falling wave bounces off of the surface. The mass bounces so high that it bounces again. And again for a total of three times. A surfer was struck upward by the first rebound, which broke his back. He survived. This is not the most dangerous surfable wave.

 

[nsaspook]