Queries about an electrostatic precipitator

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The discussion revolves around the functioning of an electrostatic precipitator, specifically focusing on how flue ash, which is considered an insulator, can acquire a negative charge in the presence of a negatively charged wire mesh and positively charged rods. Participants are exploring the mechanisms of charge transfer and the implications of electrostatic principles in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants question how flue ash, as an insulator, can gain a negative charge and discuss the role of direct contact in charging methods. There are references to practical experiences with insulators gaining charge and the implications of electrolysis in the context of charge transfer.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored regarding the charging process of ash. Some participants have provided insights about the ionization process around the electrodes, while others express confusion about the mechanisms involved. No consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the assumption that ash is an insulator and its implications for charge transfer. There is also a mention of the need for electrical neutrality in solutions, which adds complexity to the discussion.

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In a precipitator, at the bottom is a negatively charged wire mesh while at the top is a set of rods at the two sides that are either earthen or positively charged. The purpose of the negative wire mesh is to charge the flue ash negatively by conduction then it is attracted to the positive rods at the side. But how can the ash get the charge? Isn't it an insulator of electricity? And even if it is water present, how can it gain the charge? In a electrolysis setup, the two reactions at the cathode and anode must occur at the same time so how can the cations be reduced there?

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My physics tutor said that it can transfer electron by I just don't see how. Thanks for the help!
 
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hmm. Well hair-combs and balloons are insulators. And from doing physics practicals with them, you can see that they gain charge. So is it so surprising that ash can get charged as well?
 
Oh but ash gets charged by direct touching (neutral touches charged redistribution then it becomes charged). But this method is a conductor mean of charging and not a insulators mean. So I don't get how it can simply be charged this way. As fair the water explanation, the process is like the electrolysis case, but anyhow a solution must be electrically neutral so the oxidation of the anion and reduction of cations must happen together but in this case it is not. So I'm pretty confused about this... Thanks for the help?
 
Ok, I wasn't sure how this equipment specifically works, so I looked it up and apparently there is a corona (i.e. ionisation) created around the negative electrodes, and it is by this method that the dust particles acquire electrons. Does this make sense to you? I'm not certain which bit you are concerned with.
 
Hi that another type that I learned too. But the one I'm talking about is http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/static_uses.htm

I'm not sure how the ash can get a negative charge since its an insulator of electricity so the negative charges shouldn't be able to flow into it. Thanks for the help!
 

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