A person travels by car from one city to another with different constant speeds

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average speed and total distance for a car trip where the driver travels at different constant speeds for specified durations. The problem includes elements of mathematical reasoning and technical explanation related to speed, distance, and time calculations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using the formula for average speed as total distance divided by total time.
  • Another participant questions the calculation of distance covered at each speed, specifically asking how far is driven at 80 km/h for 30 minutes.
  • A participant attempts to convert all travel times into hours for consistency in calculations.
  • There is a correction regarding the approach to calculating average speed, emphasizing that summing speeds is incorrect for determining distance.
  • One participant provides an example of how to calculate distance for each segment of the trip based on speed and time.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the correctness of the initial calculations and methods used. There is no consensus on the correct approach to solving the problem, and multiple viewpoints on how to calculate average speed and distance remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations are based on incorrect assumptions about how to combine speeds and times. The discussion highlights the need for clarity in defining the relationship between speed, distance, and time.

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A person travels by car from one city to another with different constant speeds between pairs of cities. She drives for 30.0 min at 80.0 km/h, 12.0 min at 100 km/h, and 45.0 min at 40.0 km/h and spends 15.0 min eating lunch and buying gas. (a) Determine the average speed for the trip. (b) Determine the distance between the initial and final cities along the route.





I try to solve



(a) Averge speed = total distance / total time



= 30 + 12 + 45 + 15 / 80.0 + 100 + 40.0 = 0.1673 km/h



(b) The distance

= 80 + 100 + 40 = 220 km



please I wan t to correct my answer .
 
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This is wrong. How far do you get driving 30 minutes at 80 km/h?
 
which one is wrong and I fo same the

Averge speed = total distance / total time

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I try to solve agine

(a) Averge speed = total distance / total time

now i try to convert all the time to hour
by using 1 h = 60
30 /60 = 0.5 and 12/60 = 0.2 and 45/60 = 0.75 and 15/60 = 0.25

0.5 + 0.2 + 0.75 + 0.25/ 80.0 + 100 + 40.0 = 1.4511 km/h




(b) The distance
= Distance = velocity / time =
1 ) 40 - 12 / 1.95 = 14.35 m/s
 
where are you ?
 
you know
Averge speed = total "distance" / total time

are you sure that's what you have done in your solution?
 
r-soy said:
where are you ?

I drove my wife to the doctor and later we went shopping. You see, I have a life outside PF.

Summing speeds is not a way of calculating distance.

The only thing you approached correctly so far was calculation of total time.

No idea why you try to calculate average speed dividing time by the distance, instead of distance by the time.

To calculate total distance you have to separately calculate distance covered with each speed, then sum them. For example, if you drive for half an hour at 40 km/h and then for 15 minutes at 100 km/h, you cover 0.5h*40km/h=20km in the first leg and 0.25h*100km/h=25km in the second leg, total of 45 km.
 

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