Can Intergalactic Gas Feel Hot Despite Its Low Density?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of whether intergalactic gas, despite its low density, can be perceived as "hot" due to its high temperature, specifically in the context of human experience and heat transfer. Participants explore the implications of temperature, density, and heat transfer mechanisms, including conduction and radiation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that intergalactic gas can reach temperatures of up to 10^8 K, raising the question of how such high temperatures relate to its low density and the sensation of heat.
  • Another participant argues that intergalactic gas would not feel hot due to its extremely low density, which is compared to the density of water to illustrate the difference in particle concentration.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that temperature reflects the average kinetic energy of particles, suggesting that while the gas particles are moving quickly, the low density results in infrequent collisions, making it ineffective for heat transfer through conduction.
  • One participant discusses the potential dangers of X-rays emitted by the gas, noting that while the gas may be hot, the individual particles might not have enough energy to cause damage upon collision.
  • Another participant elaborates on how the sensation of warmth is influenced by the body's heat absorption and radiation, concluding that while the interstellar medium may be "hot," it would likely result in a cooling sensation for a human body due to significant energy loss through radiation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the perception of heat from intergalactic gas. While some argue that it would not feel hot due to low density, others acknowledge the high temperature but emphasize the inefficacy of heat transfer in such conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall sensation of heat in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions, such as the effectiveness of heat transfer mechanisms and the body's metabolic response in a vacuum, which may influence their conclusions. The discussion also touches on the implications of radiation and particle energy, but these aspects are not fully resolved.

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I understand that intergalactic gas is a strong source of X-rays due to high temperature of upto 10^8K.
If this gas is also known to be of very low density, will it 'feel' hot?
I am a little confused, because I understand that densities can be so low as to produce forbidden spectral lines.. So how could such low densities impart heat to a more solid object .. Thanks
 
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it really wouldn't feel hot at all. According to wikipedia, there's about 10 to 100 hydrogen atoms per cubic meter.

Compare that to a cubic meter of water with 3.345x10^28 molecules.
 
The temperature just indicates the mean of the statistical distribution of particle kinetic energies in the gas. Since the temperature is so high, it means that, on average, the particles in the gas are moving around pretty fast.

You are right that, due to the very low density (and hence the very low frequency of collisions with your body), this gas would be very ineffective at heating you up by means of conduction. I think that how hot something "feels" depends on how well it can transfer heat to you by conduction.

You still probably wouldn't want to go there. Those X-rays are ionizing radiation, which is very dangerous. (Of course, I'm sure you are already aware that X-rays are dangerous). I wonder, also, if the individual gas particles themselves might not have enough energy to cause damage upon collision with your molecules. The average particle energy seems to be just under 10 keV, which sounds like it could be well into the ionizing regime.
 
That is an interesting question. How warm you feel is based upon the body temperature of the individual and how much heat it absorbs or confers to the surrounding environment.

The interstellar medium will "warm you up" (it will transfer more energy to you than vice-versa), however, it will not warm you up quickly enough to make up for the huge amount of energy you are radiating into space.

Think about it. The human body probably generates about 100 Watts of power in base metabolism. At maybe 2 m^2 of surface area, from the Stefan–Boltzmann law we know that you would be losing about 1000 W of power due to black body radiation, so effectively you would be losing about 54000 J of energy per minute, or about 130 C. That means that for every minute you spent in the interstellar medium, your total body temperature would decrease by maybe half a degree (assuming that your body doubled or tippled its metabolism to attempt to compensate and assuming your body is 100% H2O).

I am not sure about the internal thermodynamics of the human body in a vacuum, but your skin would probably get a lot colder a lot faster than the rest of your body. Since your cold receptors are in your skin, I would imagine this would feel extremely cold, and evaporation of the moisture on the skin would make your skin cool down even more quickly than radiation alone.

So yes, the interstellar medium may be "hot" but you would feel very cold.
 

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