Is the real world mostly collapsed?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of reality in the context of quantum mechanics (QM), specifically addressing whether the real world is predominantly in a collapsed state or if superposition plays a significant role in everyday experiences. Participants explore concepts of decoherence, the implications of superposition on reality, and the relationship between consciousness and quantum states.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern that if everything were in superposition, it might affect their thoughts and sense of reality.
  • Another participant suggests that the idea of collapse is primarily a theoretical construct and questions whether decoherence occurs in everyday experiences.
  • A participant asserts that decoherence is responsible for the emergence of the classical world, implying that most experiences are not in superposition.
  • There is a question about whether atoms involved in chemical bonds are in superposition in nature or if they are decohered, with a response indicating that electrons in atoms are entangled and not decohered.
  • One participant reiterates their fear about the implications of superposition on reality and expresses a need for understanding the reasons behind the existence of reality.
  • A later reply advises that if someone is experiencing psychological stress due to these concepts, they should seek professional help rather than relying on physics discussions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether reality is mostly collapsed or if superposition is significant in everyday life. Multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of quantum mechanics on reality and the nature of consciousness.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions hinge on the definitions of collapse and decoherence, and there are unresolved questions about the relationship between quantum states and classical experiences.

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I know that a resonator which is the size of cell isn't in superposition unless its cooled to its ground state. My question is does this imply that my car, house even my cells and atoms arnt in superposition in nature unless some scientists decide to isolate whatever thing they want from the rest of the enviorment. The reasoning that the real world is for the most part collapsed is obviously coherent with our personal perception of it. I am honestly writing this because I am scared that if everything was in superposition my thoughts might have some effect on it. I know it seems disconected and I know that QM has nothing to do with counsciesness but there is this lingering fear that if the world is all in superposition then space and time don't exist. At that point I've lost all sense of reality. I need to know the "whys" of why reality exists.

Thank you to anyone who can help me out with this problem.
 
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You are overthinking the whole thing. The moon doesn't care whether you are looking at it or not.
 
But is reality for the most part collapsed?
 
batmanandjoker said:
But is reality for the most part collapsed?
When was the last time you saw anything in a superposition of states?

batmanandjoker said:
At that point I've lost all sense of reality.
So have I and it appears everyone else. You may need a philosophy course or to simply follow your own path to reality.
 
batmanandjoker said:
But is reality for the most part collapsed?

Collapse is purely something that occurs in a theorists calculations and not even present in some interpretations.

What you may be asking does decoherence occur prior to virtually everything we experience in the everyday world.

The answer to that is yes - of course - and is responsible for the emergence of the classical everyday world.

Thanks
Bill
 
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I know that chemistry also uses QM to form chemical bonds between atoms, my question is in that world are the atoms that make up those bonds in superposition if they are not manipulated by scientists I mean in nature or are they also decohered.

Any help is much appreciated
 
batmanandjoker said:
I know that chemistry also uses QM to form chemical bonds between atoms, my question is in that world are the atoms that make up those bonds in superposition if they are not manipulated by scientists I mean in nature or are they also decohered.

Well, due to the vector space structure of pure states, all pure states are a superposition of other states.

However I suspect your question is, in atoms, and molecules, are the electrons in a superposition of position. Again the answer is - yes of course.

Decoherence is a particular type of entanglement. Electrons in atoms and molecules are entangled with the nucleus and other atoms so they behave like a single quantum object. It is those objects that decoherence applies to - the electrons are not decohered.

Thanks
Bill
 
batmanandjoker said:
Im scared that if everything was in superposition my thoughts might have some effect on it. I know it seems disconected and I know that QM has nothing to do with counsciesness but there is this lingering fear that if the world is all in superposition then space and time don't exist. At that point I've lost all sense of reality. I need to know the "whys" of why reality exists.
This isn't the purpose of PF. If you are experiencing psychological stress as a result of your physics studies then you need to seek professional psychological help, not amateur physics instruction.
 

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