Limit Problem: Solving sin(kθ)/2k for n→∞

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The problem involves evaluating the limit of a series defined by the expression lim(n→∞)(sum(sin(kθ)/2k,k=1,n)). The subject area pertains to series convergence and trigonometric functions.

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  • Participants discuss the convergence of the series, with some suggesting the use of power series and others exploring the relationship to geometric series. Questions arise about the appropriate convergence tests and how to manipulate the series to isolate sin(kθ).

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various approaches and questioning assumptions about the series. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of the imaginary part of a complex series, but no consensus has been reached on the final limit or expression.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of series manipulation and convergence criteria, with some expressing uncertainty about separating real and imaginary components in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



The problem is as follows:

lim(n→∞)(sum(sin(kθ)/2k,k=1,n)

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The Attempt at a Solution


I feel like this should converge since sin oscillates between -1 and 1 and 2k keeps getting larger and larger.

Do I have to use power series somehow?

Any ideas, anyone?
 
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MATHMAN89 said:

Homework Statement



The problem is as follows:

lim(n→∞)(sum(sin(kθ)/2k,k=1,n)


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I feel like this should converge since sin oscillates between -1 and 1 and 2k keeps getting larger and larger.

Do I have to use power series somehow?

Any ideas, anyone?

Are you trying to determine whether this series converges?
\sum_{k = 1}^\infty \frac{sin(k\theta)}{2^k}

What tests do you know?
 
Mark44 said:
Are you trying to determine whether this series converges?
\sum_{k = 1}^\infty \frac{sin(k\theta)}{2^k}

What tests do you know?

Thanks for your response.

The problem can be rewritten as sum (ak*(1/2)^k) where ak=sin(kθ)
Then I can use limsup ( n√abs(ak) = 1
Therefore my radius of convergence is 1. But now how do I use that to find the limit?
 
Your series is related to the geometric series a^k where a=e^(i*theta)/2. How is it related?
 
Dick said:
Your series is related to the geometric series a^k where a=e^(i*theta)/2. How is it related?
I see what you mean. If I do ((e^i*theta)/2)^k I would get

(cos(kθ)+isin(kθ))/2^k
I just need to get the numerator equal to sin(kθ)
How do I do that?? I need to get rid of the cos (kθ) and the i in front of sin

Could I do(e^i*theta - e^-i*theta / 2i)^k = sin(k*theta) ?
 
MATHMAN89 said:
I see what you mean. If I do ((e^i*theta)/2)^k I would get

(cos(kθ)+isin(kθ))/2^k
I just need to get the numerator equal to sin(kθ)
How do I do that?? I need to get rid of the cos (kθ) and the i in front of sin

Could I do(e^i*theta - e^-i*theta / 2i)^k = sin(k*theta) ?

No, you don't want to do that. Just take the imaginary part of the complex series.
 
Dick said:
No, you don't want to do that. Just take the imaginary part of the complex series.

Aha. And then I have

lim n →∞ of I am ( sum (e^iθ/2)^k , k = 1 to n)
So this is a geometric series and would be equal to
lim n →∞ of I am ( e^iθ/2 * (1-((e^iθ)/2)^n)/(1-(e^iθ)/2)
 
I got sin(theta)/(2-sin(theta)) as my answer. Sound right?
 
MATHMAN89 said:
I got sin(theta)/(2-sin(theta)) as my answer. Sound right?

Nope. I don't think you were careful enough separating real and imaginary. Try and think of a way to check it. Suppose you put theta=pi/2 in your series. Can you sum it? Then put pi/2 in your formula.
 

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