Understanding Euler's Number: Its Significance & Definition

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The discussion centers on the definition and significance of Euler's number, often denoted as e, exploring its mathematical properties and applications in various fields such as science and engineering. Participants delve into different definitions, interpretations, and implications of Euler's number, including its role in differential equations and growth models.

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  • Some participants provide two standard definitions of Euler's number: as a limit and as a power series.
  • One participant explains the derivation of e through Euler's method for solving differential equations, emphasizing the relationship between the exponential function and growth processes.
  • Another participant questions a specific equality related to the exponential function, prompting clarification on the notation used.
  • There is a discussion about the clarity of mathematical expressions, with some participants asserting that certain formulations are unambiguous while others find them ambiguous.
  • One participant highlights the importance of defining the exponential function in terms of its properties rather than merely as a power of e.

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Participants express differing views on the clarity of mathematical expressions and the implications of defining the exponential function. There is no consensus on the interpretation of certain statements, indicating ongoing debate.

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Can anyone give me a good definition of Euler's number and its significance. I see it everywhere, it's prolific in science and engineering.
 
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There are two standard definitions:

e = lim_{ n \to \infty} (1+\frac{1}{n})^n

e = 1 + \frac{1}{2!} + \frac{1}{3!} + \frac{1}{4!} + \ldots

The first one is the result of constructing a function, y = exp(t) that solves the differential equation

y = y'

with the initial condition

y(0) = 1

using Euler's method with step size 1/n and taking the limit as n goes to infinity.

Euler's method is glorified name for following a slope field (or vector field if the dimension is greater than 1) along to approximate a solution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_method

You could call this solution y = exp(t). It then turns out that exp(a+b) = exp(a)exp(b). This gives us a lot of information about the function. For example, exp(5) = 5exp(1) and 1 = exp(1-1) = exp(1)exp(-1), so exp(-1) = 1/exp(1). So, this is looking a lot like a function a^t. If you argue further along these lines, you see that that is indeed the case. So, we define e = exp(1). It then follows that e^t = exp(t), so this function, exp(t) that solves the differential equation turns out to be some number, which we call e, raised to the power t.

You can also interpret the limit using compound interest (or any form of growth with constant relative rate, like population growth). Khan Academy explains it well from this point of view, for example.

The 2nd formula for e solves the same differential equation, using power series, rather than Euler's method. The differential equation with initial condition determines a power series for e^x and when you plug in x = 1, you get the formula for e.
 
homeomorphic said:
For example, exp(5) = 5exp(1)

This can't be right...but I'm also not sure what you were going for with this equality...
 
Oops, I meant exp(5) = exp(1)^5.
 
homeomorphic said:
Oops, I meant exp(5) = exp(1)^5.


Ambiguous. You should write exp(5) = [exp(1)]^5

But there's nothing special about that since you're just saying x^5 = (x)^5
 
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Curious3141 said:
Ambiguous. You should write exp(5) = [exp(1)]^5

The equality posted by homeomorphic is perfectly clear and unambiguous. I'm not sure how you would interpret it in any other way.

But there's nothing special about that since you're just saying x^5 = (x)^5

You're missing his point. He did not define the exponential as ##\textrm{exp}(x) = e^x##. He defined the exponential as the unique function ##y## such that ##y^\prime = y## and ##y(0) = 1##. As such, saying that ##\textrm{exp}(5) = \textrm{exp}(1)^5## is not as trivial and actually serves to proving that the exponential function is of the form ##e^x## for some ##e##.
 
micromass said:
The equality posted by homeomorphic is perfectly clear and unambiguous. I'm not sure how you would interpret it in any other way.



You're missing his point. He did not define the exponential as ##\textrm{exp}(x) = e^x##. He defined the exponential as the unique function ##y## such that ##y^\prime = y## and ##y(0) = 1##. As such, saying that ##\textrm{exp}(5) = \textrm{exp}(1)^5## is not as trivial and actually serves to proving that the exponential function is of the form ##e^x## for some ##e##.

Yes, I see his point now.
 

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