Disabling Car Alarm: Fixing Sidewinder 5000ESP Shortcut

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting issues related to a Sidewinder 5000ESP car alarm and its potential connection to electrical problems in a Firebird vehicle. Participants explore various hypotheses regarding the malfunctioning headlights and intermittent engine shutdowns, including possible causes and solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about disconnecting the Sidewinder 5000ESP alarm, suspecting it may be causing issues with the headlights.
  • Another suggests consulting the dealer for diagnosis or repair, cautioning against tampering with the car's circuitry.
  • A participant humorously suggests checking for a fuse related to the alarm system.
  • One contributor proposes that a broken limit switch or misaligned gasket could be causing the headlight motor to malfunction.
  • There is a suggestion that the alarm system may allow disabling features via the remote, and if not, an auto electrician might be necessary.
  • A participant shares concerns about the Firebird's engine dying unexpectedly, speculating on the ignition coil as a potential issue.
  • Another participant notes that steering and brakes should still function without the engine running, advising to check the crank position sensor if the engine restarts after stalling.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the crank sensor being the issue, mentioning a recent alternator replacement and battery voltage readings that suggest a possible bad cell in the battery.
  • Another contributor recommends getting a diagnostic readout for the check engine light and suggests that the battery may need replacing due to the voltage readings.
  • One participant emphasizes the likelihood of broader electrical issues and advises seeking professional help.
  • Another suggests checking various ignition components, including points, condenser, and leads, while noting that the age of the car may affect the presence of a crank sensor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the potential causes of the car's issues, with no clear consensus on the exact problems or solutions. Multiple competing hypotheses are presented regarding the alarm system and engine performance.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the absence of the installation manual for the alarm system, uncertainty about the relationship between the alarm and electrical issues, and the potential for various components to be malfunctioning without clear identification of the root cause.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals experiencing similar car alarm and electrical issues, automotive enthusiasts, and those seeking troubleshooting advice for intermittent engine problems may find this discussion relevant.

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Okay, maybe this is not such a technical question, but does anybody know how to disconnect a car alarm?. I have a sidewinder 5000ESP that I think has a shortcut, because I am noticing that something weird happens with my headlights. One of the electric motor of the headlights keeps on working for a while after switching off the lights, and I am not even able to drive with the headlights down and the park lights on (they are just below the headlights, at sight) since some time ago. Fortunately nothing happens with the starter. But I think that the alarm is responsible of the shortcut. I went to the dealer webpage but it does not have the installation manual (!).
 
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Your best bet would be to go to the dealer who installed it for a diagnosis/repair. If such isn't possible, find another dealer for the same product. There are too many things that can go wrong if you start messing with the circuitry in a computerized car.
 
Is there anything in the manual about the alarm system? If not maybe there's a fuse for it and you could pull it out, just kidding.
 
Clausius2 said:
One of the electric motor of the headlights keeps on working for a while after switching off the lights
I'm thinking that there is a limit switch on this headlight that's broken or shifted out of alignment.
Or
If there is a rubber gasket or seal with the light door then it may no longer be seated correctly.
 
You need the manual as most good quality car alarms allow you to disable the alarm or its individual features using the remote.

If you can't get information from the dealer of how to do that then the only other way is to take it to an auto electrician or trace the connections from the alarm yourself reconnecting all the original loom connections back together as they were before the alarm was installed.
If you don't know what your doing then leave it to an expert
 
Okay guys. Now that we are altogether for talking I will update that my firebird is diying. The engine suddenly stops (with no previous stalling). I have thought about the ignition coil, but it turns out that it is not a permanent failure, but it happens from time to time. I'm afraid because it is a power steering car, and if it goes off in the highway and I run out of brakes and steering I can have serious troubles. Any advices?

Thanks.
 
Assuming that you have normal physical capabilities, both the steering and brakes will continue to function without the engine running.
You just need to provide more of the actuation force.

If your car starts back up after a few minutes then look to replacing the crank position sensor.
It is part of the ignition system.
I have seen quite a few fail in this maner.

Note: this sensor has different names depending on where it is physically located.
I don't know the location for your car.

These sensors are in the $20 range, so being wrong is cheap, but educational.
If that doesn't help then bad/corroded electrical grounds or engine control computer.

Edit: If you replace the sensor yourself, the base timeing will probably need to be adjusted. Tolerances are close enough that it should run, but may not meet emisions standards.
 
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the crank sensor?. It seems a little bit, I don't know, strange. As a recent update, I will tell you that this morning I drove the car for a while and the light of service engine needed soon came on, without stalling nor stopping, and it kept like so until I got to my place. For more information, the alternator got broken some weeks ago, so I had to replace it. The awful thing is that it drained the battery because I run some yards without alternator. The battery is ok, I went to get it recharged and the voltimeter reads about 10-11 volts when loaded with lights (my instrument panel has a voltimeter) and around 13 volts when the alternator is running. I'm pretty sure that the former alternator was not giving 13 volts (in part because it was going off), maybe the change of alternator is over energizing the old ignition coil. But to say the truth when I drove today I felt a little bit of lack of power, and I am starting to thing that some spark plug is dead. My next movements are going to go to a Diagnostics Center or to replace the ignition coil and the plugs by myself.
 
Had a few cars die intermitantly on that crank sensor.

If the check engine light turned on, get a readout.
Some cars will display the error if you push the right buttons in the right order.
In the US some auto parts stores will do a free readout.

If your battery shows 10v - 11v with lights on and engine off.
Most likely you have a bad cell and the battery needs replacing.
An alternator failure can cause this type of battery problem.

If it runs reasonably well most of the time, then coil and plugs are very unlikely problems.
 
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Thanks a lot man. I will go to have one of those readouts done.
 
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My guess is that a lot of the electrical parts of your car are giving trouble. Seems like the main circuit is where the problem is. No point messing with those. Take your car to some electrical workshop or to the dealer you got your alarm system. They may need to go through a lot before even they can fix it. May even be a small problem, but not possible for you to fix on your own.
 
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If it was my car i would first be changing the points & condensor (depends on age of car) plugs and then the leads and maybe coil if it has one .
Doubt its got anything to do with battery but check for corroded or broken leads where they attach to the battery terminals.

dependent of its age it may not have a crank sensor so check the manual.
 

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