Can Nations Afford Altruistic Wars?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether nations can afford to engage in wars driven by altruism, excluding defensive conflicts. Participants explore the definitions and implications of altruism in the context of warfare, questioning the motivations behind such actions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the question of altruistic wars cannot be answered with accuracy due to its complexity.
  • Others inquire about historical examples of wars fought out of genuine altruism, questioning the distinction between altruism and propaganda.
  • There is a proposal that definitions of "altruism" and "wars of defence" need to be clarified, as they may often overlap in practice.
  • One viewpoint argues that if altruism does not exist, then nations like the USA cannot be said to engage in wars for altruistic reasons.
  • Another participant reiterates the idea that denying the existence of altruism implies that the USA's military actions are not altruistic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence of altruism and its role in warfare, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of defining altruism and its implications for understanding the motivations behind wars, suggesting that assumptions about these concepts may vary among participants.

Can nations afford to fight wars (not counting wars of defence) out of altruism?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 50.0%
  • No

    Votes: 6 50.0%

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A simple question. Do you think nations can afford to fight wars (not including wars of defence) out of altruism? Yes or no?
 
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this can't be answered with any possible accuracy.
 
What wars have ever been fought out of genuine altruism rather than PR or propagandized altruism?
 
With worldly issues as it is now, won't a definition of "altruism" and "wars of defence" be apt? In certain cases (and through propaganda) it SEEMS that the two are very much blurred.
 
Adam said:
A simple question.
The question may be simple, but the answer is extrordinarily complex. One might argue (for example), that there is no such thing as altruism. Even seemingly altruistic actions will have personal consequences.
 
If one argued that there is no such thing as altruism, that one must be saying that the USA does not go to war for altruism. Simple.
 
Adam said:
If one argued that there is no such thing as altruism, that one must be saying that the USA does not go to war for altruism. Simple.


That's what you have been saying all along.
 

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