GLAST Launch: Has the Gamma Ray Large Area Telescope Operated as Scheduled?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the operational status and scientific objectives of the Gamma Ray Large Area Telescope (GLAST), particularly regarding its scheduled launch and the investigation of whether photons of different energies travel at different speeds. The conversation includes references to theoretical implications and the broader context of research in quantum gravity and special relativity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that GLAST was initially scheduled for launch in the summer of 2007, but later information indicates a delay to early 2008.
  • One participant mentions that the primary science objectives of GLAST do not include testing the idea of frequency-dependent variations in the speed of light, which was proposed by Fotini Markopoulou-Kalamara.
  • Another participant discusses the historical context of research on energy-dependent speed of light, referencing developments in deformed special relativity (DSR) and loop quantum gravity (LQG), and suggests that efforts to derive such predictions may still be ongoing.
  • There is a mention of a seminar by Jerzy Kowalski Glikman that indicated challenges in extending certain results to four dimensions, leading to a perception that the community was moving away from the idea of an energy-dependent speed of light.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the current status of research in this area, noting that while some have given up on the prediction, others may still be pursuing it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the operational timeline of GLAST and its scientific objectives. There is no consensus on the implications of the research surrounding energy-dependent speed of light, with some participants suggesting ongoing efforts while others indicate a shift away from the idea.

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Limitations include the dependence on evolving theoretical frameworks and the unresolved status of GLAST's launch timeline and scientific objectives. The discussion reflects a mix of historical context and current uncertainties in the field.

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I just read in The Trouble with Physics that the Gamma Ray Large Area Telescope was scheduled to launch in the summer of 2007. It was supposed to determine if photons of different energies travel at different speed.

So, has the telescope began operating as scheduled? What are the results so far?
 
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The launch is scheduled for early 2008.

http://glast.gsfc.nasa.gov/"

http://www-glast.sonoma.edu/"

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quasar987 said:
I just read in The Trouble with Physics that the Gamma Ray Large Area Telescope was scheduled to launch in the summer of 2007. It was supposed to determine if photons of different energies travel at different speed.

So, has the telescope began operating as scheduled? What are the results so far?
The notion of a frequency-dependent variation in the speed of light, is not in the primary science objectives for GLAST, as far as I know. This was proposed by Fotini Markopoulou-Kalamara, who is a colleague of Lee Smolin at the Perimeter Institute. The idea is that space has a fine-scale structure, and that EM must interact with space as it propagates through it. Intuitively, high-frequency EM (short wavelengths) will interact more frequently than low-frequency EM, and that might be detectable as a frequency-dependent offset in EM arrival times.
 
Smolin's book was written in 2005 and came out in 2006
during those years it was established that in some form of 3D gravity with matter, a kind of dispersion relation should hold.

a keyword search term was DSR (deformed special relativity)

Many people thought this would extend to 4D and a lot of effort was put into extending the result so that it would apply to our usual universe. this research effort lasted at least till around January 2007.

Then Jerzy Kowalski Glikman gave a seminar talk at Perimeter around that time explaining why it didn't go through and why the result was so hard to get.

In several papers that came out up thru March 2007 I got the impression that people were giving up on trying to make LQG/SF formalism predict an energy dependent speed of light.

There were reasons to hope it might work (such as what happens in 3D) but it didn't work.

So AFAIK LQG does not predict energy dependent speed of light after all!

However IT AIN'T OVER TIL IT'S OVER and there probably are people who are still trying to derive that prediction in 4D, and they might succeed, and GLAST has been delayed and now is not supposed to go up until 2008. So there is still time for someone to go on record with a prediction!

At the Loops 07 conference in June 2007 there was no talk about DSR---suggesting that the idea has been put on hold.
 
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