Gamma ray map of the galaxy completed by NASA

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The discussion revolves around the recent release of gamma-ray images from NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope, focusing on the implications of these findings for understanding the Milky Way galaxy, particularly regarding the existence of a supermassive black hole and the newly discovered gamma-ray-emitting structures.

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  • Some participants express excitement about the gamma-ray images and the potential for new discoveries related to gamma-ray bursts.
  • One participant notes that the observed structure resembles artistic conceptions of the galaxy's disk and questions the expected concentration of gamma rays at the galactic center, where a supermassive black hole is theorized to exist.
  • Another participant emphasizes that while there is strong evidence for a supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, its existence has not been definitively proven, and Fermi's role will be more about understanding the accretion disk and jets rather than proving or disproving the black hole's existence.
  • Participants share links to additional resources and articles related to the Fermi Telescope and the galactic black hole, indicating a desire for more information on the subject.
  • Recent findings from the Fermi Telescope reveal a giant structure in the Milky Way, described as two gamma-ray-emitting bubbles, which may be remnants of an eruption from a supermassive black hole, although their nature and origin remain unclear.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of excitement and skepticism regarding the implications of the Fermi Telescope's findings. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the data, particularly regarding the existence and nature of the supermassive black hole at the galaxy's center.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the existence of a supermassive black hole and the interpretation of gamma-ray emissions, which are not universally accepted. The implications of the newly discovered structures are still under investigation, and participants acknowledge the complexity of the gamma-ray data.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying astrophysics, particularly in the areas of gamma-ray astronomy, black hole research, and the structure of the Milky Way galaxy.

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Very cool image.

NASA researchers yesterday released images collected by a new telescope studying high-energy gamma rays. A combined image from 95 hours of the telescope's initial observations showed bursts of gamma rays glowing across the plane of the Milky Way.

The Gamma-Ray Large Area Space Telescope, renamed Fermi, was launched in June and is off to a promising start, NASA scientists said.

Does anyone know, is anything in the information we got from this so far at all surprising? Is it likely we will learn anything about gamma ray bursts from this or is more information
 
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Very cool indeed, I've been waiting to hear more about GLAST or Fermi as it is now called. Here is another link from SCIAM is anyone is interested.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=glast-telescope-first-light

To me that's not that supirsing because it resembles artists conceptions of the disklike nature our galaxy however the image it generated is quite interesting. I would have expected to see a higher concentration of energy at the milky way centre considering many believe there to be a massive black hole at the centre. I am wondering if Fermi will help astronomers further proove or disproove this theory or even present new theories.
Im interested in more information on Fermi and this subject if anyone has some good links besides NASA page because I've allreayd been there. What exactly are the long term goals of this project, if any?

Here is another article from SCIAM relating to the galactic black hole.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=how-stars-formed-near-black-hole
 
Hi blimkie.k,
Yeah, this is fascinating interesting stuff. I have a comment on this quote.
blimkie.k said:
Im wondering if Fermi will help astronomers further proove or disproove this theory or even present new theories.
Im interested in more information on Fermi and this subject if anyone has some good links besides NASA page because I've allreayd been there. What exactly are the long term goals of this project, if any?
We haven't proven the existence of a super-massive black hole's (SMBH) anywhere yet, however, we have excellent evidence that there is a SMBH at the center of our galaxy. Mainly, we've been observing stars orbiting the SMBH for years that have orbits roughly the diameter of our solar system. Through an elementary analysis of their orbits we know that there is either a point mass or spherical mass that is millions of times the mass of our own sun which can only be a BH. If it's not a BH it's a very very very dense state of exotic matter that is completely unexplainable by physics (it would pretty exciting if that were the case, but unlikely).

Fermi won't be proving or disproving the existence of an SMBH in the center of our galaxy, it would just help us understand further the nature of the our SMBH's accretion disk and jets (both of which are much weaker than AGN's or quasars).
 
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Update:

NASA's Fermi Telescope Finds Giant Structure in our Galaxy
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/new-structure.html

WASHINGTON -- NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope has unveiled a previously unseen structure centered in the Milky Way. The feature spans 50,000 light-years and may be the remnant of an eruption from a supersized black hole at the center of our galaxy.

"What we see are two gamma-ray-emitting bubbles that extend 25,000 light-years north and south of the galactic center," said Doug Finkbeiner, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass., who first recognized the feature. "We don't fully understand their nature or origin."

The structure spans more than half of the visible sky, from the constellation Virgo to the constellation Grus, and it may be millions of years old. A paper about the findings has been accepted for publication in The Astrophysical Journal.
. . . .
Other astronomers studying gamma rays hadn't detected the bubbles partly because of a fog of gamma rays that appears throughout the sky. The fog happens when particles moving near the speed of light interact with light and interstellar gas in the Milky Way. The LAT team constantly refines models to uncover new gamma-ray sources obscured by this so-called diffuse emission. By using various estimates of the fog, Finkbeiner and his colleagues were able to isolate it from the LAT data and unveil the giant bubbles.
. . . .
Gamma ray energies are in the 1 to several hundred GeV range.

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/498886main_DF4_bubbles_graphs.jpg

What to make of this?
 

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