String theory and Bell's theorem, redux

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The discussion centers on the relationship between string theory and the implications of Bell's theorem, particularly regarding quantum nonlocality and reality. Participants explore how string theory might address or relate to the outcomes of Bell inequality experiments and the interpretations of quantum mechanics that arise from them.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that string theory has little to say about quantum nonlocalities related to Bell's theorem, while others propose that it may offer insights.
  • One participant argues that calling quantum nonlocality a definitive feature is naive, as it can disappear in certain interpretations of quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant explains that Bell's theorem implies either a nonlocal or a non-existent reality, and contextuality is necessary for a coherent interpretation of reality.
  • It is noted that string theory introduces forms of nonlocality that challenge traditional views, potentially making nonlocality an acceptable property in the context of reality.
  • Some results in string theory are claimed to support the Bohmian interpretation, suggesting a natural relationship between string theory and Bohmian mechanics.
  • Participants reference various papers that explore these ideas, indicating ongoing research and debate in the field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of string theory for quantum nonlocality and reality. There is no consensus on how string theory relates to Bell's theorem or the interpretations of quantum mechanics.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments depend on specific interpretations of quantum mechanics and the acceptance of nonlocality, which remain unresolved. The discussion highlights the complexity of relating string theory to established quantum mechanics principles.

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I asked this in sci.physics.strings and I haven't gotten an answer yet, so I hope you'll oblige me.

How can string theory explain the results of Bell inequality experiments and experiments of similar inequalities?
 
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Demystifier said:
It is generally believed that string theory has nothing to say about quantum nonlocalities such as those related to the Bell theorem. For a different opinion see however
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/hep-th/0605250

I think it is rather naive, and perhaps even disingenuous to call it non-locality when it disappears in certain interpretations. Also, http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/27640" article raises the possibility that non-locality may not even be enough. (Though I don't think that this would affect the Bohmian interpretation. Also, I'm don't know how well verified those results are.)
 
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OK, let me explain what the Bell theorem says:
It says that reality either
a) does not exist
or
b) is nonlocal and contextual
The paper that you mention, indeed, also shows that nonlocality is not enough, but that contextuality is also needed in order to have reality. (BTW, Bohmian mechanics is both nonlocal and contextual, so you are right that it is not excluded by results of the the paper that you mention.)
Nevertheless, contextuality is usually not considered to be an unacceptable property. What is considered unacceptable is nonlocality. That is why non-real interpretations of quantum mechanics are widely accepted.

And now comes string theory. Various results in string theory (that have no analog in particle physics or field theory) show that a certain form of nonlocality cannot be avoided. As it cannot be avoided, now nonlocality becomes acceptable. With nonlocality being acceptable, the main argument against reality cannot longer be applied. In that sense, with string theory reality becomes more acceptable.

Even with accepting reality, there is still many possibilities. Nevertheless, an independent argument
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/hep-th/0512186
shows that the Bohmian interpretation is quite natural within string theory. (This argument that does not have an analog in particle physics.)

In addition, string theory solves some intrinsic problems of Bohmian mechanics that cannot be solved so elegantly within particle or field physics:
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/hep-th/0702060
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/0705.3542

Thus, although the things are not yet settled, some results do point in the direction that string theory and Bohmian mechanics are naturally related.
 
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Aeroflech said:
I think it is rather naive, and perhaps even disingenuous to call it non-locality when it disappears in certain interpretations.
See also the argument that, in a certain sense, quantum mechanics is nonlocal in ANY interpretation:
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/quant-ph/0703071
 

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