Can I study topology without taking multivariable calculus?

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of studying topology without prior coursework in multivariable calculus. Participants explore the necessary prerequisites for understanding topology, including mathematical maturity and basic set theory, while considering the resources available for self-study.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that basic set theory is essential for studying topology, but little else is required.
  • Others emphasize that mathematical maturity, defined as the ability to understand definitions and write proofs, is the most important prerequisite.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about their mathematical maturity but is eager to learn and questions whether studying topology would help them gain experience.
  • There are recommendations for specific topology books, including one aimed at high school students and another noted for its correctness but criticized for its terse explanations.
  • Some participants discuss the course book "Principles of Mathematical Analysis" (often referred to as "Baby Rudin") and its suitability for beginners, noting its challenging pedagogical style.
  • Suggestions for supplementary materials include works by George Simmons, which are described as more readable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that basic set theory is necessary and that mathematical maturity is important, but there is no consensus on the exact prerequisites for studying topology. The discussion includes varying opinions on the accessibility of specific textbooks and resources.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their preparedness for topology, highlighting a lack of consensus on what constitutes mathematical maturity and the effectiveness of certain textbooks for beginners.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in studying topology, particularly those considering self-study without formal prerequisites, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello,
I'm wondering, is it possible to study topology without having taken a course in multivariable calculus? I'm very eager to learn and my college don't offer too many math courses this spring (I'm moving to a bigger next fall though), so I'm thinking if I should take topology. I can basically put in unlimited time of study to grasp it.


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Learning topology requires some knowledge of basic set theory, but little more than that.
 
I would say that the most important "prerequisite" is mathematical maturity which is, basically, the abitility to understand and use specific definitions and to write good proofs.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
I would say that the most important "prerequisite" is mathematicaol maturity which is, basically, the abitility to understand and use specific definitions and to write good proofs.

And if you don't have that mathematical maturity, I can't think of a better way to obtain it than to study topology because most "theorems" in point set topology follow trivially from the definitions...
 
try this topology book for high school students:

First Concepts of Topology; The Geometry of Mappings of Segments, Curves, Circles, and Disks
Chinn, W. G.; Steenrod, N. E.



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I know basic set theory, so that probably won't be a problem.

Hallsofivy, quasar987

I wouldn't say that I'm mathematically mature in any manner, but I have a will to learn. I've been getting straight As all the way in math, but that probably doesn't show anything. But one day, I hope to have accumulated enough experience to be able to refer to myself as mathematically mature. Do you both think that topology would be a good task to undertake to gain a bit of this experience?

Mathwonk
Thanks, I just bought it. I have to say that you and everyone else (none mentioned, none forgotten) really inspire me. To every homework helper and everyone that gives tips, thanks. Off topic, but I just want it off my chest.
 
thank you. good luck. you are a wise man.
 
I don't know if I could call myself a man at age 18, though.

Anyhow, the course book is "Principles of mathematical analysis" aka "Baby Rudin". How is it? Are there any special prerequisites for it except the ones mentioned above?
 
this book is an excellent source of correct information, but a poor source of explanation of that material for most students, being overly terse. i.e. the author is a good analyst but a poor pedagogue.
 
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Is there any book that I could use as a supplement to it?
 
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as a young instructor i found the books of george simmons much more readable.

Introduction to Topology and Modern Analysis International Series in Pure and Applied Mathematics
Simmons, George F



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