Can Explosives Extinguish Fires by Removing Oxygen?

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The discussion revolves around the theory that explosives can extinguish fires by removing oxygen. Participants explore the mechanisms by which this might occur, including the potential for explosions to consume oxygen or create a vacuum effect, as well as the specific context of oil well fires.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that explosives can extinguish fires by consuming locally available oxygen.
  • Others argue that the mechanism is not simply the removal of oxygen, but rather the separation of fuel from heat, similar to blowing out a candle.
  • A participant mentions that oil well fires are particularly challenging to extinguish due to the large fuel supply and that explosives are used to disrupt the burning process.
  • There is a suggestion that the explosion might push oxygen away or create a vacuum, but this is not universally accepted.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness and mechanisms of using explosives to extinguish fires, indicating that there is no consensus on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific scenarios, such as oil well fires, and discuss the complexities involved in extinguishing such fires, highlighting the need for further clarification on the underlying physics.

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Hello, Chitose wonder chick again.

First, This is NOT my homework.
...........
I herd theory that we can quickly put out the fire by setting explosive right next to it. Suck away oxygen or something I'm not sure

I wonder is this theory is true?

If it's true how come?

Is explosion burn out oxygen in the instant? or blast power push oyxgen around it away and create instant vacuum area?

and... is this physic?

...........
PS. English is not my native languge, forgive me if I'm wrong in gramma or spelling.
 
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Chitose said:
Hello, Chitose wonder chick again.

First, This is NOT my homework.
...........
I herd theory that we can quickly put out the fire by setting explosive right next to it. Suck away oxygen or something I'm not sure

I wonder is this theory is true?

If it's true how come?

Is explosion burn out oxygen in the instant? or blast power push oyxgen around it away and create instant vacuum area?

and... is this physic?

...........
PS. English is not my native languge, forgive me if I'm wrong in gramma or spelling.


Yes a fire can be put out this way. It is often used to put out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_well_fire" . It works by consuming all of the locally available oxygen.
 
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Borg said:
Yes a fire can be put out this way. It is often used to put out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_well_fire" . It works by consuming all of the locally available oxygen.

It doesn't work like that.

An oil fire is a cloud of oil-vapour that's burning above a liquid oil. The heat from the vapour evaporates more oil. If you put an explosive next to it you blow the vapour and its heat away from the liquid oil. This will separate the fuel from the heat. It's really the same as blowing out a candle.
 
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willem2 said:
It doesn't work like that.

An oil fire is a cloud of oil-vapour that's burning above a liquid oil. The heat from the vapour evaporates more oil. If you put an explosive next to it you blow the vapour and its heat away from the liquid oil. This will separate the fuel from the heat. It's really the same as blowing out a candle.

I was quoting what was in the article:

Oil well fires are more difficult to extinguish than regular fires due to the enormous fuel supply for the fire. In fighting a fire at a wellhead, typically high explosives, such as dynamite, are used to consume all the local atmospheric oxygen and snuff the flame out. Doing so removes the oxygen necessary for the fire to burn, but the fire's fuel, whether it be natural gas or oil, is still present which can shower down upon the working crew.
 

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