What determines the behavior of weak interactions in fundamental particles?

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The discussion centers on the behavior of weak interactions in fundamental particles, particularly focusing on the cross-section of these interactions, the conditions affecting neutrino interactions, and the mechanisms behind weak boson emission. It encompasses theoretical considerations and implications for particle physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire whether the cross-section of weak interactions can be extended and what factors might influence the likelihood or range of weak interactions with neutrinos.
  • One participant asserts that the cross-section cannot be altered, noting that it varies with the energy of the incident particle and generally decreases at higher energies, while suggesting that increasing the number of targets can enhance neutrino interactions.
  • Another participant proposes the idea of receding the detector at relativistic speeds to effectively reduce the incident energy of particles.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the energy requirements for charged current interactions, emphasizing the need to produce outgoing particles with sufficient rest mass.
  • There is a discussion about resonance in particle interactions, where one participant explains that resonances correspond to specific interaction energies that lead to increased cross-sections.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the counter-intuitive nature of cross-section behavior near resonance and requests clarification.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of nuclear beta decay, questioning how weak bosons acquire energy from nucleons given their mass and the implications of De Broglie wavelengths.
  • A participant challenges the idea of cross-sections showing both increases and decreases simultaneously, seeking clarification on this point.
  • One participant references the first theory of beta decay, discussing the point-like interaction model and the role of virtual particles in mediating interactions.
  • Another participant acknowledges the complexity of neutrino cross-sections and expresses a willingness to defer further discussion until more information is available.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature of weak interactions, the behavior of cross-sections, and the mechanisms of particle interactions. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached.

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Participants mention various assumptions about energy levels, resonance conditions, and the role of virtual particles, but these assumptions remain unverified within the discussion.

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Can the cross-section of the weak interaction be extended? Are there things that can be done to fundamental particles in order to either increase their likely-hood or range of interacting weakly with a neutrino? What causes a fundamental particle to emit a weak boson anyway?
 
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turin said:
Can the cross-section of the weak interaction be extended? Are there things that can be done to fundamental particles in order to either increase their likely-hood or range of interacting weakly with a neutrino?
Nope. Nothing we can do to the cross section between elementary particles: the theory predicts that. Actually that's not entirely true, the cross section varies greatly with the energy of the incident particle - but generally decreases with higher energy. The only thing we can do to increase the likelihood of a neutrino interaction is to provide more targets (more nucleons) - ie use a lot of heavy water, maybe with some dissolved salts.

What causes a particle to emit a weak boson? In the naive picture, there is simply a probability for the particle to do so (quantum fluctuations).
 
Can we recede the detector at relativistic speeds (barring practical considerations for the moment) and thereby effectively reduce the incident energy of the particles?
 
Then you run into other problems: if you don't have enough incident energy available, you don't have the energy for charged current interactions since you need to produce the outgoing electron's rest mass. As for neutral weak currents, those are pretty darn weak. The best energies to operate at (theoretically) are the resonances corresponding to the W and Z masses, where the propagator of those mediators (which is what kills it otherwise) nearly vanishes. See http://www.ps.uci.edu/~silvestri/thesis/THESIS/node35.html for the low energy behavior. Note how the cross section goes to zero as the available energy approaches the rest mass of the particles produced.
 
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zefram_c said:
... the cross section goes to zero as the available energy approaches the rest mass of the particles produced.
Say wha-? This seems so counter-intuitive, at least if I have understood your point about resonance. Can you elaborate?
 
A resonance is a particular interaction energy at which the particles like to interact. You see this all the time when you collide electrons and positrons: every time you approach the rest mass of some highly unstable particle (like the J/Psi), the cross section shows a sharp increase and decrease.
 
turin said:
Can the cross-section of the weak interaction be extended? Are there things that can be done to fundamental particles in order to either increase their likely-hood or range of interacting weakly with a neutrino? What causes a fundamental particle to emit a weak boson anyway?
To me the more intriguing phenomena is nuclear beta decay. In principle the weak boson gets its energy from all the nucleus, but really the boson comes from a particular nucleon. And being so massive, its compton radius do not covers the nucleus. So how does it get its energy? You could claim that it is because of De Broglie wavelength, but particle creation is a phenomena of relativistic QM, so not sure if De Broglie has a role there.
 
How can the cross-section (or anything, for that matter) show an increase and decrease?

a > b AND a < b?
 
Arivero: the deBroglie wavelengths of massive bosons are indeed quite small, and so they usually do not escape the nucleus. In fact the first theory of beta decays proposed a model of a point-like interaction between the nucleons and the two leptons observed in beta decay. This model is valid at low energies (far below the W mass). As far as the energy for the boson is concerned, it need not be there as the mediating W is not on its mass shell - this is the infamous virtual particle mechanism.
Turin: surely you've seen Gaussian curves before? I was certainly not suggesting the cross section both decreases and increases at the same time. However, since our conversation, I have become aware that the cross section of neutrinos does some strange things, so I will defer further posts on this topic until I get some clear information.
 

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