What is the weak isospin of hadrons?

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The discussion revolves around the weak isospin (T3 values) of various hadrons, including protons, neutrons, mesons, hyperons, and other composite particles. Participants explore how weak isospin is calculated for hadrons and the implications of weak isospin not being a conserved quantum number.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the weak isospin values for hadrons and suggests that it may be possible to calculate these values using the formula Q=T3+YW/2, but notes the lack of available weak hypercharge (YW) values for hadrons.
  • Another participant asserts that weak isospin is not a conserved quantum number, implying that the question of weak isospin for hadrons cannot be definitively answered.
  • A subsequent response interprets the previous assertion to mean that weak isospin can only exist for fundamental particles, suggesting that hadrons do not possess weak isospin as they are composite particles.
  • Further clarification is sought on whether it could be stated that the weak isospin of every hadron is 0, despite the assertion that the question has no answer.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the previous interpretation was incorrect and reiterates that weak isospin is not a conserved quantum number, maintaining that the question remains unanswered.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the existence and values of weak isospin for hadrons. There is no consensus on whether weak isospin can be assigned to hadrons or if it is simply 0.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations in available data regarding weak hypercharge values for hadrons and the implications of weak isospin not being a conserved quantum number.

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What are the weak isospins (T3 values) of various hadrons, including the proton, neutron, mesons, hyperons and other hadrons? How is the weak isospin calculated for any hadron?

Published sources provide T3 only for fundamental fermions, that is, quarks and leptons. In the fundamental bosonic sector, the photon's T3 is (0, 1), the gluon's is 0, the Higgs boson's is -1/2, the Z boson's is 0 and the charged weak bosons' is ±1. No such information appears for composite particles.

One could calculate this using Q=T3+YW/2. However, the weak hypercharge (YW) values for hadrons are also not available.

Supposedly, it is possible that the weak isospin of all hadrons is 0, since the weak interaction does not operate on the hadron as such, only on its constituent quarks. Is this the case?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Weak isospin is not a conserved quantum number so the question has no answer.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Weak isospin is not a conserved quantum number so the question has no answer.
Thank you.

I interpret your answer as follows: weak isospin is a quantum number that can exist only for fundamental particles. This, because composite particles (hadrons) are the result of an interaction which does not conserve weak isospin.

Hence, my assumption that "the weak interaction does not operate on the hadron as such, only on its constituent quarks" is correct.

You say that "the question has no answer"; however, is it not possible to simply say that the weak isospin of every hadron is 0?
 
Ron Paul said:
I interpret your answer as follows:

I said precisely none of that. Weak isospin is not a conserved quantum number so the question has no answer.
 

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