Stock market optimization fantasy

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter Stephen Tashi
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Fantasy Optimization
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the optimal trading strategy for a hypothetical stock market scenario where participants have access to future stock price data. The focus is on whether the optimal strategy is trivial, complex, or somewhere in between, considering various trading conditions and strategies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a strategy of investing in the stock with the steepest price slope at each time t, suggesting a nearly continuous trading approach.
  • Another participant questions the optimality of the proposed strategy, noting that "buy low, sell high" might suggest a different approach, particularly if the steepest stock is expensive.
  • There is a suggestion to write down a formula for profit generation, but it is acknowledged that different strategies might yield varying results over time.
  • A later reply encourages testing both a specific strategy and a generic strategy that accounts for all possible choices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the optimal trading strategy, with no consensus reached on which approach is superior or whether the proposed strategies are optimal.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves assumptions about market behavior, the nature of stock price functions, and the implications of trading strategies that remain unresolved.

Stephen Tashi
Science Advisor
Homework Helper
Education Advisor
Messages
7,864
Reaction score
1,602
Would the optimal trading strategy for this stockmarket optimization fantasy be trivial or nearly impossible to compute? -or something in between?

You have an initial amount of money A_o and your goal is to maximize the amount of money you will have at the end of a year by trading stocks. (So you must sell all your stocks by the end of the year.) You have the advantage of knowing a time traveller who gave you data for the entire history of the next year's stock market. Say the market has a fixed number of stocks N and their trading prices are differentiable functions of time. You can buy and sell without paying commission. You can buy in any real number amounts. You can just hold an amount of money that is not invested in stocks, for any time you wish. For simplicity, we''ll say you can't borrow money, can't sell short, or make any money beside that which you make trading.

One idea: At each time t, you put all your money in the stock whose price graph has the steepest slope. If none have a positive slope, you keep your money out of the market. I suppose this would be implemented by a nearly "continuous" trading activity. Perhaps it can only be described as a limit of discrete trades as the time interval between the trades approaches zero.

However, I don't know if that strategy is optimal. The classic stock market strategy is "buy low, sell high". If the stock that currently has the steepest upward slope is expensive, it might be better to take the opportunity to buy a lot of a cheap stock that will eventually go up.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
Why not write down the formula that says how fast you're generating profit?
 
Hurkyl said:
Why not write down the formula that says how fast you're generating profit?

I suppose that could be done if you had a particular strategy. But a strategy might not generate as much profit as another initially and then it might catch up and surpass the other strategies - at least this seems possible in my limited ability to grasp the situation.
 
You have a particular strategy. Try it with that. :smile:


Also, try it with the completely generic strategy -- one that has a variable for every particular choice you could make.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 46 ·
2
Replies
46
Views
5K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
33K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 45 ·
2
Replies
45
Views
5K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
2K
  • · Replies 34 ·
2
Replies
34
Views
3K