Gravity/Electroweak unification based on generalized Yang-Mills

In summary, the authors discuss the idea of graviweak unification, which is a way of combining gravity with the other three fundamental forces. They point out some limitations of this approach, and suggest that it may not be possible to turn these theories into functioning quantum theories.
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http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.2121

Abstract:
Gravitational and electroweak interactions can be unified in analogy with the unification in the Weinberg-Salam theory. The Yang-Mills framework is generalized to include space-time translational group T(4), whose generators $T_{\mu}(=\p/\p x^{\mu})$ do not have constant matrix representations. By gauging $T(4) \times SU(2) \times U(1)$ in flat space-time, we have a new tensor field $\phi_{\mu\nu}$ which universally couples to all particles and anti-particles with the same constant $g$, which has the dimension of length. In this unified model, the T(4) gauge symmetry dictates that all wave equations of fermions, massive bosons and the photon in flat space-time reduce to a Hamilton-Jacobi equation with the same `effective Riemann metric tensor' in the geometric-optics limit. Consequently, the results are consistent with experiments. We demonstrated that the T(4) gravitational gauge field can be quantized in inertial frames.

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Interesting paper! Do you understand whether equations 14-16 say something about the cosmological constant? My second question would be; what will this tell us about the nature of the space-time; will it be a continious flat manifold?

berlin
 
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Looks interesting indeed. The authors didn't try to fancy up their article with the usual fibre bundle mango jango one often encounters in this kind of topics; that's a relieve. I'll try to read it soon, and if I have any comments or questions I'll come back :)
 
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The paper seems too amateurish to have much merit unfortunately. Always be suspicious of authors with big claims who cite mostly themselves and textbooks going back to Landau and Lifgarbagez
 
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This paper is an example of "graviweak unification", in which a gauge-theoretic approach to gravity (not to be confused with gauge/gravity duality) is combined with gauge theories of the other forces. This was one of the ingredients that went into Garrett Lisi's E8 theory of everything.

You can see technical criticisms of these "gravi-GUTs" from http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/archives/002140.html" . Fabrizio Nesti, one of the authors of graviweak unification, shows up at Distler's page, and in the comments at link "1" for Motl. One of Lubos's points is that you can make these constructions at the level of groups and geometric constructions, but you can't turn them into functioning quantum theories.
 
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mitchell porter said:
One of Lubos's points is that you can make these constructions at the level of groups and geometric constructions, but you can't turn them into functioning quantum theories.

That doesn't make sense. Anyway, the criticism from Distler it is about a unsuitable representation, and not about quantization.
 

1. What is the concept of "Gravity/Electroweak unification based on generalized Yang-Mills"?

The concept refers to the attempt to unify two of the four fundamental forces in nature, gravity and the electroweak force, using a generalized version of the Yang-Mills theory. This theory is a mathematical framework that describes the behavior of particles and their interactions with each other.

2. Why is it important to unify gravity and the electroweak force?

Unifying these two forces would provide a more complete understanding of the fundamental laws of nature and potentially lead to the development of a unified theory of everything. It could also help to resolve some of the current conflicts and limitations of our current theories, such as the inability to explain the force of gravity on a quantum level.

3. How does the generalized Yang-Mills theory differ from the traditional Yang-Mills theory?

The traditional Yang-Mills theory only describes the interactions between particles that have a certain property called spin, while the generalized version allows for the inclusion of particles with different spin values. This makes it a more comprehensive theory that can potentially describe all fundamental particles and their interactions.

4. What are some challenges in achieving the unification of gravity and the electroweak force?

One of the main challenges is the large difference in strength between the two forces. Gravity is much weaker than the electroweak force, making it difficult to reconcile the two within a single theory. Additionally, there are still many unknowns and complexities in both forces that need to be understood and incorporated into the unification theory.

5. Has there been any progress in unifying gravity and the electroweak force based on generalized Yang-Mills theory?

While there have been some promising developments, such as the discovery of the Higgs boson, there is still no complete and widely accepted theory that unifies gravity and the electroweak force. This remains an ongoing area of research in theoretical physics, and scientists continue to work towards finding a unified theory that can accurately describe all fundamental forces in nature.

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