Photoelectric Effect after Passing through Double Slit

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of detecting which slit a photon passes through in a double slit experiment and its effect on the frequency of the photon when it strikes the screen, particularly in relation to the photoelectric effect. Participants explore the relationship between interference patterns, photon behavior, and frequency integrity.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the frequency of the photon should remain intact due to the conservation of energy, even when the interference pattern is destroyed by detection.
  • Others question why the frequency would be affected after passing through the slits, emphasizing the need for clarification on this point.
  • It is noted that the disappearance of the interference pattern does not imply a change in frequency, as intensity and energy are distinct concepts.
  • Some participants highlight that the interference pattern results from many photons detected over time, with individual photons contributing to the detection rather than producing the pattern themselves.
  • There is a discussion about the relationship between the probability wave function collapse and the frequency of the electromagnetic wave, with some suggesting that the frequency remains unchanged.
  • Concerns are raised about the misunderstanding of how the collapse of the wave function relates to changes in energy or frequency, with a call for clarification on this aspect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the frequency of the photon is affected by the detection process, with no consensus reached on this matter. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the relationship between the probability wave function and the frequency of the photon.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the discussion involves complex concepts such as wave-particle duality, the nature of interference patterns, and the implications of measurement in quantum mechanics, which may not be fully resolved within the thread.

LightNg
Hi,
In a double slit experiment, shooting a photon will produce interference pattern on a screen.

Using a detector to detect which slit the photon passed through will destroy the interference pattern. The photon will pass through only 1 slit, and cause slit pattern on the screen.

The screen detects photon using photoelectric effect, but since the interference is destroyed, is the original frequency of the photon still in tact? I ask this because the photoelectric effect depends on the frequency of the photon.
 
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By the law of conservation of energy, I think the frequency of the photon should be intact.
 
LightNg said:
Hi,
In a double slit experiment, shooting a photon will produce interference pattern on a screen.

Using a detector to detect which slit the photon passed through will destroy the interference pattern. The photon will pass through only 1 slit, and cause slit pattern on the screen.

The screen detects photon using photoelectric effect, but since the interference is destroyed, is the original frequency of the photon still in tact? I ask this because the photoelectric effect depends on the frequency of the photon.

You need to back up a bit and present a very important explanation. Why would the frequency of the photon be affected after it passes through the slits, be it both slits, or just one slit?

Zz.
 
If the interference pattern disappear, (as in the case of having a detector to detect which slit it pass through), and the photon exhibits particle property now, does the photon still have its frequency intact when it strikes the screen?
 
LightNg said:
If the interference pattern disappear, (as in the case of having a detector to detect which slit it pass through), and the photon exhibits particle property now, does the photon still have its frequency intact when it strikes the screen?

As I had guessed, you are confusing the light INTENSITY with energy. Just because it "disappears" at a particular point doesn't mean that its frequency has changed!

Zz.
 
LightNg said:
If the interference pattern disappear, (as in the case of having a detector to detect which slit it pass through), and the photon exhibits particle property now, does the photon still have its frequency intact when it strikes the screen?

Hold on. You have misunderstood a key factor here. The interference PATTERN is the result of many photons detected over time. Each photon itself doesn't produce a pattern, only a detection. In the interference pattern, the high amplitude areas are simply areas that we detect the most photons at over time.
 
ZapperZ said:
As I had guessed, you are confusing the light INTENSITY with energy. Just because it "disappears" at a particular point doesn't mean that its frequency has changed!

Zz.

This is not about intensity with energy. It is about when the probability wave function collapse, does the frequency of the EM wave still intact? I suppose the answer is yes.

I am not sure if the probability wave has the same frequency as the EM wave, and how 1 affect another.

Hold on. You have misunderstood a key factor here. The interference PATTERN is the result of many photons detected over time. Each photon itself doesn't produce a pattern, only a detection. In the interference pattern, the high amplitude areas are simply areas that we detect the most photons at over time.

I know that one. I guess I need to phrase my question better.
 
LightNg said:
This is not about intensity with energy. It is about when the probability wave function collapse, does the frequency of the EM wave still intact? I suppose the answer is yes.

I am not sure if the probability wave has the same frequency as the EM wave, and how 1 affect another.

I have no idea what you just said here. What "collapse" are we talking about that somehow ALTERS the energy/frequency of the photon? In no part of the double slit (i.e. superposition of the PATH that a photon takes through the slit) is there ANY indication of a change in the photon's energy! Yet, you seem to indicate that there is one, especially at the location where the photon underwent a destructive interference. This is puzzling.

Zz.
 

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